(08-06-2018 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-06-2018 01:54 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Um, what?
It's public knowledge how the Steele dossier came to be created (Republican's against Trump started it).
And we're already looking into how it was used in the FISA app (hello Nunes and Schiff memos). But I'd be fine if that got rolled into an investigation into the Steele dossier - my guess is that we'll find out that the FISA application process is more at issue, as opposed to the Steele dossier.
No idea why you think the Clinton campaign had a role in the FISA app - is there evidence suggesting that it may have been involved?
And what evidence is there that the Clinton campaign did something criminal?
You somehow seem to be drawing a connection between the Steele dossier and the Clinton campaign that doesn't exist - a mythical connection that says the Clinton campaign decided to try and snoop on Carter Page, an ex-campaign adviser.

Started by republicans opposed to Trump, through early March 2016, yes. But taken over and nurtured by the Clinton campaign, through Fusion GPS in April 2016, and their hiring of Steele in June 2016, also true. We keep being told that nobody knew anything about the details of this arrangement outside Fusion GPS--ergo, no knowledge of each other by Clinton campaign or Steele. But are those self-serving statements more reliable than others which you reject from the other side? If so, why?

What is not clear to me at all is exactly the timing and method by which this dossier came to be in the possession of the FBI, and who paid whom exactly what to get it there. I've heard several accounts, which are at least somewhat contradictory. I've heard that Steele worked for Fusion GPS who worked for the Clinton campaign up until the 2016 election, and that Steele continued his investigation without Clinton campaign funding after the election, but I've also heard that the FBI was acting on the dossier before the election. If you understand exactly how all this came down, I'd appreciate it if you could clarify.

I don't see how those claims are contradictory. The Steele dossier is made up of multiple memos, some of which were distributed prior to the publication of the full dossier by Buzzfeed.

That's how some of the dossier was used in the FISA app for Carter Page. Steele laid out some of his work in July 2016 to the FBI (https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-vets-missi...d=52309501) and that likely is what they used in the FISA app.

Your recollection appears to be pretty spot on - you can read a lot about the timeline on the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%8...ion_events) all of which provides primary sources.