(07-20-2018 02:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Mr. Lad -

The remarks we made about the fringes got me to thinking.

Your leftist fringe is becoming Democrat mainstream. My fringe is still fringe. You very nearly had a Socialist candidate in 2016. Except for some cheating, it could have happened. Now the heroes are Ocasio-cortez, Kamala Harris, Warren. soon it won;t be "Democratic socialists", it will be marxists and anarchists.

There is no doubt the democrats are moving left, and rapidly. You may be in the situation of a lobster being cooked - you blithely don't notice the water changing temperature until it is too late. You're cooked.

I think one of these days, and soon, you will suddenly realize that with no change in you at all, suddenly you have become right of center. You didn't move, the center did.

I don't know what your choice then will be - will you stick with the socialists you have been traveling with, or go to to a more rightish party? I am confidant you will make the "right" decision. Some of your friends here, I fear, are already cooked. I made that move when I was 35.

Democrats arent *moving* left, they are *returning* to their roots of '67 - '88. Too bad Clinton put the 'Third Way' detour in front of them.

Obama was the seismic lurch *back* to *their* center, now they are unabashedly accelerating that way. I think we are discussing a related topic in the Buckley Room.

But and Lad will get pissed at me for this, those with no political memory prior to 2000 will get pissed at those of us who do that bring up this salient point from history.