(04-20-2018 09:58 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 09:36 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 06:48 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  [quote='OptimisticOwl' pid='15258718' dateline='1524196805']
FBI coordination on Clinton

There is more evidence of collusion between the FBI and the Clinton Campaign than there is of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.


All this smoke, we need an investigation so we will know the truth.

Actually went through and read the article - can you put the pieces together for me for collusion at all? And specifically with the Clinton Campaign? I didn't really get any collusion, just communication that doesn't seem abnormal. And I don't see Clinton Campaign officials involved.

One email referenced holding off on administrative action as to not affect the FBI investigation, and the other mentioned discussing proposed administrative action to "keep the DOJ in the loop."

But maybe I'm missing something.

Yes, you are.

You are missing the willingness to accept the evidence in one case, and missing the willingness to be logical in the other.

I can tell you the narrative that I think an investigation in FBI/DOJ would reveal. Nobody has come up yet with a reasonable narrative that they think the Trump/Russia investigation will reveal. They all start with something improbable like "Trump called Putin" and all end with "..and Vlad upheld his end of the bargain by publishing the truth, just like the New York Times is supposed to do".

Read flash's post #3604 for the short list.

and what I said was not limited to evidence in this set of emails.

I would add that the exoneration was composed before the investigation was done, and the Clinton staffers' interviews and hers were not done to protocol. I would add McCabe lying under oath, and Comey leaking in violation of his own protocol. The changing of the report from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless"? Not an accident.

But that's why we need an investigation into the investigation. So we will, ya know, KNOW the truth.

Are you OK with an investigation by a special counsel into the bias or lack of bias within the FBI/DOJ?

Maybe neither happened. But how will we ever know, without an investigation?

Go ahead and investigate. McCabe lied to cover up the fact that he allowed a leak to happen to protect his own image. Ironically, that leak was that there was in fact an investigation into the Clinton Foundation (not a pro-Clinton move). From the IG report:

Quote: We concluded that McCabe’s decision to confirm the existence of the [Clinton Foundation] Investigation through an anonymously sourced quote, recounting the content of a phone call with a senior Department official in a manner designed to advance his personal interests at the expense of Department leadership, was clearly not within the public interest exception. [quote]

I think he suffered from the same issue Comey did, which was over-analyzing the situation and letting public opinion play a role in their decision making. And, again, rather ironically, Comey made a decision that also hurt Clinton.

I still don't see how the link you provided is connected to the collusion you mentioned.

The bolded part is the very definition of bias.

so what part of public opinion led them to use the Steele dossier to get a FISA warrant?