(04-12-2018 11:50 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 11:25 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 08:33 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 12:53 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(04-12-2018 12:11 AM)flash3200 Wrote:  Lad, you are either the most naive adult ever or you are hiding behind your ideology as are others.

I will eat a bag of deer corn if I am wrong, but Michael Cohen is not a mob lawyer. Donald Trump is not a mob boss (he probably had some interaction in the 1980s because you couldn't build a building in NYC without paying the mob). This search warrant was pure political theater. Trump's sex life has nothing to do with collusion or any other perceived crime that could have improperly engineered the election. Michael Cohen taking care of Trump's various personal business does not constitute a criminal enterprise. These search warrants are only used on criminal enterprises. The search warrant was a massive overreach of prosecutor discretion and that is obvious. But yet here we are.

Every honest person has to sit here and think two things 1) Trump is a scummy individual but he is the first person to have a chance to inject classical liberalism into national politics 2) perhaps someone in the Trump org. committed a felony. Maybe it was Trump. There is zero evidence. Let's wait until there is a single byte of evidence before we give a pubic hair of benefit of doubt to the investigative bodies and the mass media in their hysterical prosecution of a man where the crime has yet to be identified.

Or perhaps I just have a different perspective? In my mind, there is no way that Mueller, Rosenstein, and the magistrate who signed off on the search warrant didn’t know, for multiple reasons, that the searching and seizing of documents held by Michael Cohen would cause an epic uproar for reasons that have been discussed. There’s no way those three individuals, and any others associated with the act, were not that naive. And they would be aware that their efforts would be heavily, heavily scrutinized.

And because of that, I am apt to believe that the warrant was just and executed correctly. Neither of our perspectives have any proof at the moment to back up our opinions, but outnumbered obvious biases do cause us to give the benefit of the doubt to different parties in this situation.

Following this logic, there is no way that highly trained cop would have shot that black man in the alley, knowing the uproar it would cause, unless he felt it was fully justified. Therefore, it must have been a good and legal shooting.

Yes, you have a different perspective - the perspective of one defending the witch hunt at any cost.

And you don’t have the opposite perspective?

I won’t even go into why that’s a faulty comparison.

No, Lad, I don't have the opposite perspective. I tmay seem that way to you, since you are so invested in defending the witch hunt,. my perspective is that something unfair and probably illegal is happening. i am against that.

Care to explain that logic? You are yelling witch hunt (literally) and refuting every single thing the opposing view has put forth. How is that not the exact opposite perspective?