(03-13-2018 01:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-13-2018 01:26 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I'm not dodging - I've just done this song and dance with you for the past year and a half, and the needle hasn't moved. I've provided you with evidence of why the investigation isn't illogical, yet you just refuse to see logic in it. That's why I laughed.
I mean, let's do something really easy and LOGICAL. Assume the pee tape is real. All of a sudden, Putin has leverage over Trump. Putin could then say, let us help you get elected so you can, in return, not criticize me (Trump hasn't), not ratchet up sanctions (Trump still hasn't done that, despite them passing Congress), and push our interests (RNC changed their stance on Ukraine).
There is LOGIC there - whether it is plausible and likely is another story (mainly because I brought up the pee tape). I can think of plenty other logical reasons for why the Russian investigation is still on going, but you will fail to see logic in every one of them. I promise you that.

But here's the project with that LOGIC and all of the LOGICAL arguments. They all depend on significant "if" clauses. And none of the if's have been substantiated in over a year of thorough investigation.

If there is a pee pee tape. What if there isn't?
If "the Russians" hacked the DNC. What if they didn't?
If "the Russians" conspired with Trump to hack the election. What if they didn't?

Let's establish a proper predicate before leaping to hypothetical conclusions.

That's the difference between this and Watergate. There we clearly had a crime before starting to investigate. Here we don't. The needle hasn't moved because there has been nothing to move it.

That’s not what OO was talking about...

But to your point - we don’t know one way or the other, as the investigation hasn’t run its course. But there’s enough hard evidence about Trump campaign associated communicating with Wikileaks about the email dumps, and having meetings “about Russian adoption” to warrant investigating whether or not there was a conspiracy in play.

I mean, there was a crime - emails were stolen from the DNC. There then happened to be a lot of interaction between campaign officials and those releasing said emails.