(03-03-2018 03:16 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Tanqtonic - I was joking with my personal immigration anecdote.

“Illegal” immigration - the current administration has specifically said they want to drastically reduce legal immigration as well as the number of refugees. Plus Trump expressed a clear preference for immigrants from white-majority countries over immigrants from black/Hispanic countries. Plus ending DACA and deporting DACA recipients. I think that is enough to say he is pretty anti-immigrant, though I do not paint conservatives generally with such a broad brush.

Of course, he has also proposed amnesty with a path to citizenship for more Dreamers that DACA would cover. How to you reconcile that with your prejudged conclusions?

For the record, I don’t agree with anybody else on this. I would propose increasing the number of legal immigrants while cutting the number of illegals. I think a full physical wall is a waste of money, but I favor selective tailored improvements to border security. I would make it a merit based system without regard for country of origin, except nobody from countries where it is impossible to vet their history. I would allow legitimate refugees. No lottery, and severely restrict family chain immigration. With respect to those already here, deportation is not really a realistic option. Make them guest workers with no path to citizenship (what has been proposed as a “red card” system). That way we at least get a handle on how many and where they are, and they have access to courts to address frauds and other mistreatment.