(02-28-2018 10:35 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 06:50 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  So, in that vein, tell me what exactly is so heinous about the June 9th meeting in Trump tower. A Russian met with Trump,Jr. under false pretenses, and was dismissed summarily. How is that collusion, or treason, or whatever people is trying to make of it? So he wanted dirt on Hillary. Didn't they want dirt on Trump? Isn't that why they hired Steele to get it from RUSSIANS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH WANTING DIRT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AS LONG AS IT IS TRUE AND NOT MADE UP STUFF? So why do the lefties keep harping on that meeting? Especially in the light of the Clinton campaign doing even worse, actually paying for made up stuff from Russians instead of dismissing them as TJ did? What did TJ do wrong in that meeting?

(02-28-2018 09:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I am very tired of every contact with a Russian being hailed as evidence that this conspiracy exists, while at the same time the Clinton Campaign actually pays for somebody to gather dirt from Russians and is given a free pass because they craftily placed three degrees of separation between them.

(02-28-2018 10:22 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Could giving false information to Steele knowing it would be sent back to the Clinton Campaign be construed as meddling? If so, why is that not part of the investigation into "Russian meddling"? Could intentionally using a dossier with suspect information to get a FISA warrant be meddling? Looks to me like the Russians wildly succeeded with their meddling. This probe and all the attendant publicity have deeply divided our country and engendered a lot of distrust in our system. I have to tell you, the collusion theorists look to me like dupes in this endeavor - willing dupes.

You are arguing that FBI/DOJ are fair and trustworthy, against those who are arguing political bias and motives. Therefore, if they provide evidence to support their assertion that a double standard exists, they are not engaging in whataboutery.