(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-27-2018 12:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  as for the Politifact, it is a fatual listing of the innuendo. joe Blow met a russian? Oh dear me. i met a Russian - twice in the last year. a,e russian. my son took themSinerian express theough Russia to St. etersburg. Sure hope we don't get investigated. if my son can't remember the exact dates, or I can't, there is two OOJ charges. i think my son may have brought back some money from Russia and deposited it in a bank. here is your money laundering.

I've been to Russia in the last year, and I shared a cab with a director of the Russian Rugby Federation in Hong Kong. Guess I'm a criminal.

Guys, I am trying to have a reasonable conversation about a serious issue. If you don't want to have a reasonable dialogue, just tell me. Because you both know your flippant comments are nothing like the situations with the June 9th meeting at Trump Tower, lying or omitting information about meeting with foreign actors on a federal government form, or lying to the FBI about communications with foreign individuals.

You know what? I don't think I've ever met a Russian. But if I had, and it was time for me to fill out my once-every-five-year DOJ paperwork, and I freaking omitted or lied about meeting with Russians, I know full well that I could be thrown in jail. So I would make damn sure that everything on those forms was 100% accurate. And anyone who didn't take that paperwork seriously shouldn't be working in the government.

Comments like this remind me why I often shy away from engaging in political discourse. In the gun thread, there was a discussion of sincerity. I sincerely believe that you sincerely believe there was no "collusion" between the Trump Campaign and Russia. But comments like the ones I quote are not remotely sincere.