(02-27-2018 09:54 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I don't have to wait because I have that intelligence we were talking about earlier. If I see a truck and a car on a collision course at an intersection, I don't need to wait and see to know what is likely to happen happen. If I see a child playing on a cliff, I don't need to wait and see.

If some yahoos in Congress allege that UFO's have dropped a polar bear into the West Wing and Trump is feeding children to it, do I need to await the outcome of an investigation to form an opinion about the likelihood of such a happening? No. And the whole collusion conspiracy theory rests on just such a flimsy foundation. Truthfully, I think the whole wait and see attitude is just a cop out I hear when I ask somebody to give me the narrative of what they think the investigation may uncover. Apparently nobody wants to say they believe in the UFOs, but a lot of people want to wait and if Mueller finds any.

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(02-27-2018 09:54 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Just sayin', if we had a similar probe into the Clinton campaign (or any other) we would find just as much "lying to the FBI" and "money laundering" indictments as we have with Mueller. Do you disagree? Is there any reason to think those campaign are composed of people who are purer. The only difference is we do not have a special counsel looking into those other campaigns. I bet all of us here have skeletons in our closet, and/or financial deals that could make us subject to balckmail. They go zero of the way to proving collusion. So is the narrative that the russians blackmailed Manafort into talking Trump into collusion? That manafort went to Trump and said, "Hey Don, I have a problem. The Russians found out about my money laundering and are threatening to expose me unless you back off in Syria"? Really?

What the actual F? Sorry, no. I work for the DOJ and I can assure you that there are no such skeletons or "financial deals" in my life. Moreover, I can't imagine that being true for even a vast minority of my co-workers. I don't make enough damn money to have "financial deals" anyway!