(02-03-2018 06:46 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 06:36 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 06:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 05:49 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 04:08 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  It’s fascinating that whatever partisan lense one views politics through generally dictates how one feels about the Nunes memo. With the exception it seems of Trey Gowdy - shocked that he agreed it was a whole bunch of nothing.

You act as though the Nunez memo were the only bit of smoke. Maybe it is that partisan lens you were speaking of.

But your answer is clear, and it is definitely a partisan no. Is your blind eye the one on the left?

maybe a few things to jar your memory.

Tarmac meeting.

Change in the wording of the conclusion of the Hillary investigation from negligernt to careless

Strok-Page texts.

Russian sources for the Steele dossier, paid for by the Hillary campaign.

The Nunez memo is not the only bit of smoke regarding the handling of Trump and Clinton by the FBI.

Nor is it the last memo. Nunez said they wanted to keep the memo(s) focused, and there is another in the works. perhaps unmasking?

I would think we would want a president who was so wise and foreseeing as to realize months before even being nominated that he needed DNC emails stolen and published without change in order to win Wisconsin and Michigan. Pretty dad gum foresighted, I think. But, on the other hand, if he didn't realize there were Americans talented enough to do that job for him, maybe not.

But all that smoke.

Tarmac meeting was the previous admins DOJ, not FBI, right? The meeting was bad, for sure, but wrong agency.

Not sure what’s there to investigate in the changing of text - should we now investigate every draft of every report ever written?

Texts resulted in the agent being removed and the missing ones were recovered. Unless those indicate otherwise, it’s likely that we’ll just find more jokes about secret societies and criticisms of both parties.

The Steele dossier has likely already been scrutinized by the intelligence agencies, but I think either those conclusions being made public or a Senate/House dive into it would be warranted at this point. But the use of Russian sources on its face isn’t smoke, and neither is the DNC being the second funders.

I don’t think the FBI or DOJ are without their faults, but at the moment, I don’t see enough smoke to warrant an investigation into either agency. But as I’ve said before, investigating the Steele dossier - including its production and use - would be good.

Tarmac meeting was Comey's boss, and happened while the investigation was active. One result was that she asked Comey to refer to it as a "matter", not an investigation.

The changing of text took it from a criminal matter, to not a criminal matter. negligence is a crime.

Every contact between a Trump campaign operative or Trump appointee is taken as smoke. Now the investigation is called the investigation into Russian meddling. What better way to meddle than passing false information to a Trump enemy working for the Clinton campaign in oppo research? Almost a direct pipeline from Russia to the MSM. Easy peasy, and they got paid for it too.

My point is that the entire collusion Russian meddling investigation is based on much weaker points of smoke than are emerging in the FBI/DOJ matter. If the first one merits a special counsel, so does the second one.

The only reason the text change is smoke to you is because the change in language resulted in a result you disagree with. How does editing a memo, which was then signed off on by the FBI, constitute smoke? Oh right, cus you disagree with the outcome.

I mean, the guy who changed the text has now been shown to have written a memo advocating for reopening the Clinton investigation based on the Weiner computer emails. That decision was definitely not a pro-Clinton one.

And for the Russian meetings, the smoke for Trump came from the frequency of meetings, the types of conversations, and most importantly, the desire to lie about them or cover them up.

The editing changed the whole thrust of the conclusion. THAT is why it is smoke, however much you want it to be something else.

But never mind. Clearing we need more smoke, maybe a smoking gun, before you will be able to see clearly. I think that will be forthcoming.