(12-13-2017 12:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 08:09 PM)baker-13 Wrote:  I've been thinking about posting this for a while, but OwlNumbers bringing it up now makes it impossible for me not to...
Courtesy of the immortal Art Buchwald...

Well, what about Chappaquiddick? Were/are you outraged by Teddy's behavior? Was his behavior better/worse than Roy Moore's? Than Bill Clinton's? Than Donald Trump's? Why, in each case? And what was your relative degree of outrage in each one?

My guess is, if you lean left, you are outraged by Moore and Trump, but you make excuses for Ted and Clinton. And if you lean right, vice versa.

I don't know what it means, but I was--and remain--outraged by Teddy, not so much by Clinton, pretty much so sick of Roy Moore before the allegations--and frankly not convinced of the truth of the allegations--that they didn't register much, and not really sure exactly what to think about Trump. I probably have to admit that my greater disgust with Teddy than with Bill is probably at least in part because I agreed with Bill on a lot more policies. But I still think what Ted did was the worst of the four, by far.

To be fair to me, Chappaquiddick happened >20 years before I was born. Hard for me to have an opinion on it when it was, quite literally, old news (Kennedy died during my first semester at Rice).

Similarly, Bill's "indiscretions" happened while I was in elementary school. Again, not much comprehension of what happened.

So yes, what happened at Chappaquiddick was heinous. It was also ~40 years ago and both parties involved are now dead.

Bill Clinton shouldn't be called on to speak at any Democratic event from now on. He probably shouldn't have been in 2012. And the "feminist" response to his issues at the time was horrific.

If you want a read on the present-day difference between Dems and Reps when it comes to things like this, I'd suggest you note that the majority of Democratic senators called on sitting Democratic senator Al Franken to resign because of credible accusations of things that I personally believe are far less heinous that those Moore was credibly accused of (because at least one person in Moore's case was a minor). Meanwhile, no sitting Republicans have called on the sitting Republican president to resign due to his multiple allegations, which seem to fit the pattern that he described himself taking part in on tape.

Next question?