(10-31-2017 12:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:34 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I would have no problem, opening an investigation into the dossier, because there have been a number of intersecting characters and people denying their involvement in it. But I am not as concerned about it as am I about the Trump campaign.
But what gets you so angry about this? You say you've been clear, but it isn't clear to me. You seem REALLY pissed off by this.

Why are you not as concerned about the dossier? Because the dossier hurts your team while Trump is the other team? Team over country? Or what?

Here's my thought. This kind of stuff (and by this kind, I mean all of the above) has been going on around DC on both sides for decades. Nobody ever called the other side out because they were all doing the same thing. From the present going back, we can find ample incidents on both sides if we chose to investigate. I think the only thing that people are angry about is the perception that some folks are ganging up against one side, and letting the other side go with a wink and a nod. I have seen nothing yet, aside from unsubstantiated speculation, that identifies anything on either side that is worse than what Comey stated openly and then testified before congress that Hillary did. Yet she is walking free while others are being indicted. That strikes me as being, at best, extraordinarily unfair.

I think we have a clear case of politics trumping integrity. And it does not help Donald Trump that his own party has largely opposed him, in addition to opposition from the other side of the aisle.

All I want to see is the law applied with equal vigor to everyone.

I'm less concerned about the dossier, at the moment, because it appears to be much closer to routine oppo research than that has happened with the Trump campaign.

The dossier appears to have been created by both conservatives, and then liberals, using normal methods to collect oppo research.

For the the most similar issue in the Trump campaign, the Russians trying to give them stolen information and the Trump campaign being willing to accept it, I'm more concerned because it's much clearer that there was another entity, that was not the campaign, that was trying to push an agenda. Because the Russians repeatedly reached out (we have at least two confirmed instances where Russians tried to peddle stolen emails to different Trump campaign officials), I want to understand why they did, and if, in the end, the campaign accepted the help. And if so, if there were any conditions attached to it.

And that doesn't touch on all of the meetings with Russian officials that Trump campaign officials have lied about, the connections to dirty Russian money that Trump campaign officials have been indicted for, and so on.

I don't see these two situations being similar enough to say that law is not being applied equally to them at the moment. But that can change with the revelation of new information.