(10-30-2017 01:27 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 01:10 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 01:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  i skimmed through the indictment, and failed to find two words: collusion or Trump.

sounds like tax evasion/money laundering/failure to fill out papers.

so what does this mean for the investigation in Trump/Russia collusion to steal the election?

awaiting the word from qualified lawyers here.

There are connections to Russians trying to influence the election in the indictments (see my recent posts).

I would guess that these are the first, and easiest, chips to fall and that the Feds may be trying to leverage the indictments for information on charges they want to file but need a few more pieces of the puzzle for.

This is definitely closer to the beginning, not the end, of this investigation.

On a side note, I told y'all there would be financial crimes.

Yep, like the DNC enlisting the help of the Ukrainians. Let's all play Six Degrees of any Russian.

lokk back, and you will se that many months ago I predicted no collusion, just a bumch of small fry getting caught in minor technicalities.

so far, nothing looks different from that.

the twelve count indictment is missing two words - Trump and collusion.

It would be shocking if these were the only indictments to come down from the investigation. We should wait and see - it is not clear if you are completely correct.

There are connections, especially with Papodoupolus, to colluding with the Russians to influence the elections. He was informed of stolen emails in April 2016, well before that news was made public. And per the indictment, he covered his tracks after being interviewed by authorities.

I expect more indictments, at least Flynn, for not doing the paperwork properly. I also expect none for "collusion" and none of Trump.

Youse guys say the right is fascinated by the emails, but there is no evidence that the emails chamged a single vote, much less a state...or two...or three. in other words, they had zero effect. What did have effect? hree words..."basket of deplorables".

It appears both side havd some invilvement with RAussians in an effort to get dirt on the other. what is wierd ismthat only the right's efforts were wrong, the left's were OK.

I womder if the dirt they were trying to sell Junior was in fact, a fact.

I've said this many time, intent matters. Just like how there is a charge for attempted murder, even when the person doesn't actually kill someone.

If you're actively trying to leverage the resources of a hostile foreign national to attempt to sway voters, that matters, regardless of how much the opponent shot themselves in the foot.

But look, this story is far from over. I don't think I am right about anything except the financial crimes I predicted. But you certainly aren't correct yet, because these are almost certainly not the last indictments.