(10-15-2017 04:24 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 04:21 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 04:17 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 01:16 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  And I’m not going overboard either. I provided evidence of a potential connection to counter your claim that there was abaolutely nothing that could connect Putin with helping Trump. I even said that the evidence led to a potential outcome, not a certain one. And the uncertainty was why I refrain from stating that anyone DID collude.

Again, you are mischaracterizing my posts. I have never said anything remotely approaching that there could not possibly be anything connecting Putin to Trump. What I've said is that there is nothing factually evident right now that suggests any sort of collusion. There are certainly isolated data points, but those could very easily have been coincidental or could have involved normal business having nothing to do with any sort of collusion. Is collusion a possible outcome? Certainly. It's possible that Donald Trump is gay. But not likely.
At least you have admitted that there is uncertainty. That's a large step ahead of many of your fellow travelers on the left.

Because being on the left side of the political spectrum means you're a communist. Nice.

Pretty much, yes, if you are left of center left. The whole of leftist political thought has its roots in collectivist theory--just like socialism and communism.

Disagree? Fine, please point out the differences.

So what you're saying is that once you go left of center you're a full fledged communist? In order not to offend you, if that is not what you're saying, and I'm misinterpreting your statement, please explain.

Because it sounds like you're saying there is no difference between believing in full blown communism and believing that some government regulation is necessary on capitalist framework.

And I have no idea what that means for social progressives. Are you suggesting that being in favor of state-sponsored gay marriage, laws protecting LGBTQ individuals from being fired for being LGBTQ, decriminalization/legalization of marijuana or other drugs all of a sudden makes someone a communist?

I understand the theory that the liberal side of the spectrum has similarities with communism/socialism, but having similarities, or even roots in it, does not mean that the political outlook IS that.