(10-14-2017 09:45 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:30 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:02 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I think Lad’s responses exemplify the mindset of the Resistance, a determination that no matter what Trump does, it is wrong.

Collusion was a false bogeyman usd to justify an investigation, one which always ranges far afield from its stated subject and which always finds somebody to indict for something. (Scooter Libby). Now as it becomes more and more apparent that the investigation will not find collusion, the hopes of the Resistance turn to financial crimes, sex crimes, crimes nfidelity, cheating at golf, anything, repeat, anything to demonstrate that the election of 2016 was, if not a fraud, then a mistake, and HC should be our President, because she is the mirror opposite of him, wise, honest, caring, etc. Getting kind of old.

If there was absolutely no evidence to warrant an investigation into the campaign’s collusion with Russia, there wouldn’t be an investigation. This is very similar, IMO, to Clinton’s email investigation or Benghazi investigation, in so much that there was/is enough preliminary information to warrant further investigation.

Again, I do not think it is apparent that the investigation will not find evidence of collusion within the campaign - just look what came out about the meeting with the russian lawyer! You seem to Ben misunderstanding my thought so if you keep going on about how I am norm interested or suspicious of collusion within the Trump campaign.

The evidence to warrant the investigation was twofold:

A. Hillary lost when she was a shoo-in. why? How?
B. Russia stole emails and published them. Why?

Mankind has always searched for explanations of inexplicable events. That is what we are doing now.

If anything, the revelation that Trump Jr. intentionally accepted a meeting with a foreign national in which he was excited about potentially receiving dirt/opposition research from a known foreign national, should be enough to explain why the investigation is not a complete sham, which you seem to imply it is. Again, and again, the investigation is into the entire campaign, not just POTUS, and between Trump Jr.’s actions, all of Manaforts sketchy Russian connections, and Flynn’s calls to Russian officials, there isn’t ample reason to dig deeper and understand what went on.

And that doesn’t even touch understanding how Russia utilized resources like social media sites and Wikileaks to attempt to influence the general public. Some of the stories being published about Facebook and twitter deleting data associated with potentially Russian purchases ads or backed groups is really disconcerting.