(09-21-2017 09:56 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 07:36 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 10:22 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(09-20-2017 09:51 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  It sounds like you're primarily commenting on people/protestors that do things like burn/vandalize symbols (e.g. The flag), as opposed to just protesting/voicing their opinion in general.

Yes, that's exactly and only what I was talking about. I thought that was the premise you were asking about it -- but I see now that it is not. My mistake.

No need to apologize. Your point is pretty valid, in my opinion. However, I wonder where the line is that demarks when it's ok/isn't ok. For each person that's different and Colin Kapernick (sp?) is a great example of that. He was silently and non-violently protesting at his games by not standing for the national anthem and some believe that this was such a disrespectful act that he didn't belong in the NFL.

Disagree. He was at work,his actions caused problems for team management, and when he lost that job, other prospective employers decided the value he brought to a team was not worth the baggage he brought with him. Many an ex-teacher has learned the same lesson.

Personally, I have much less quarrel with his method of protesting as with his reasons for protesting.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

In any case, once his football skills are worth more to a team than the negative publicity, he will have a job.

What are you disagreeing with? You literally agreed with my point, which is that Colin K. is a perfect example of how everyone has a different opinion of where the line between appropriate and inappropriate protests lands.

This example shows how you have a group of people who don't believe how/what he was protesting was appropriate, so Colin doesn't have a job (i.e. belong in the NFL). Yet you have another group of people who are vocally critical of the decision not to employ him.

Perhaps had he protested just on social media, or off the football field, an NFL owner would have found his presence palatable (after all, many owners employ people with serious criminal convictions that would get most average employees fired). But since he didn't do something overtly offensive (like burning the flag) it's in a gray area where there is disagreement on how the situation is being handled.