(08-18-2017 01:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 01:09 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Second -- Lad, since we know that you consider the punching of nazis a far better moral plane than their admittedly transmitting a vile message, where in the Lad-Universe *is* the line for protected speech that doesnt warrant a baseball bat to the face? Obviously there is some 'line' *north* of "Kikes arent welcome" and "Get out n-ggers", but obviously well south of a Mother Theresa kumbaya message, so I would really be interested in *where* this line exists for you? And also, why the left is so adamant about such a content-based moral line?

And while you are drawing that vileness line, please indicate on which side of the line you would put comments like, "What do we want? Dead cops. When to we want them? Now."

Those individuals are on the same side as the Nazis and white supremacists.

And I know where you're going with that. There was a reason I specifically talked about what the GROUPS advocate for, and not what individuals within the group say or do. Almost any group will have a few bad apples, and because of that, what the group actually stands for can be very important.

I would say that I would draw the vileness line at a point where people are advocating violence against, persecution against, or denigrating others because of features they have no control over (race, sex, sexuality, etc.). However, I'm not trying to draw a line in the sand.

Tanq and others keep trying to make this a black and white issue, a clear right and wrong issue where you are on one side or the other. Like most things there is a gradient. Heck, I EXPLICITLY stated that when comparing Antifa to Nazis, one is LESS worse. I don't get how someone could argue against that. That Antifa, as we know them, are exactly equal to Nazis and white supremacists.