(07-12-2017 10:03 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:34 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 12:59 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I cannot see the logic of Trump asking Putin to steal the emails for him and then wanting him to publish them without change. Was Trump so prescient that he knew long before that the truth was bad enough? Why ask Putin to do it? Couldn't he find an American to do it? We don't have any good hackers here, or he couldn't afford them? I keep.asking for somebody to explain that logic to me. So far, no takers.

Perhaps because you keep asking us to explain straw men that no one here has proposed?

Who has suggested Trump asked Putin to steal emails?

Edit: I had totally forgotten that Trump kinda did do that in public. LOL. So let me amend that to "who is suggesting there was a secret conspiracy where Trump contacted Putin to help him out?"

The Junior emails are actually surprisingly explicit to the point you wonder if they were trying to get blackmail material...

Is that not the basic question that the investigation is supposed to answer? Is that not the smoke? What the heck is Mueller supposed to investigate if not that?

so what is the straw man? Asking for a logical and reasonable narrative that one thinks might be reasonably uncovered by an investigation? sorry, no straw there.

Yeah he kinda did that that in public. Key word is kinda. I kinda implored Florida to beat LSU. Hope that doesn't mean you take me for a Gator fan. I am not in collusion with Florida.

if somebody is laying it on UH, I will say "keep the heat on!" I took his public comment in that vein. Of course, if there was real collusion, what would be the purpose or function of the public comment? Is this supposed to be the double secret way they communicate?

The straw man is saying "we don't have proof that Trump called up Putin and asked him to steal Hillary's emails" therefore there's nothing to this. No one thinks that is what happened. Though in fairness, I would never have thought we'd see an email chain as blatant as the one Junior released, so who knows?