(06-30-2017 07:15 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 06:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 02:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  How would conspiring with foreign hackers to steal emails NOT be collusion?

Before answering that, first note that we don't have that fact pattern.

I completely agree that this is not proven - I haven't stated that it was. My whole stance this entire debate is about the amount of smoke around the Trump team. A lot of weird coincidences that pique my interest and make me believe that it is not a foregone conclusion that there WASN'T collusion. Obviously there is not enough evidence that the WAS collusion either.

That's why I am happy with how things are playing out in the real world, with investigations to ferret out the truth. I think there are enough issues that have arisen to warrant that. And honestly, all I keep doing is posting articles about the circumstances that indicate we should be looking into the situation.

My response was to OO's request to connect the dots on how that article could suggest collusion. I didn't think it was that illogical to connect the dots on ones own - that if hackers were actively trying to get a particular person intel, that they were told to get that particular person said intel. It's also not that illogical to assume that they had their own motives and felt said person was the best means to their ends.

I feel like I'm being treated as a person who is screaming at the top of their lungs "FIRE" while I'm screaming "SMOKE" and everyone else is screaming "THAT'S JUST FOG."

I feel your pain. Some people have thought I approve of everything Trump. Very frustrating.

I see lots of smoke, but most of it is smoke blown by the people hollering "smoke" or hollering "fire". When casual meetings in public become smoke, then people are just looking for smoke.

I met a Russian woman a few months ago. A Russian meeting with a conservative? Clearly, I need to be investigated.

I asked for dots to be connected to show,they don't connect. Even your strained effort had to rely on a bad assumption. There just is no logical or reasonable narrative that supports collusion. But it is not fair to make Lad shoulder the burden of the collusion conspiracy alone. Does anybody have a logical and reasonable narrative of this collusion?