(05-12-2017 05:44 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  So if I understand things correctly, there is no actual legislation he tried to introduce or push that backs up the socialist/communist label, right? But deep down inside, he wanted to be one, he just decided to hide it all since the Reps held the House and Senate?

You don't understand correctly.

Presidents don't introduce legislation in our system. Senators and representatives do.

Obama made no secret the he wanted single payer. But he couldn't pass the law himself. Congress had to do that. And wouldn't.

Obama made no secret that he wanted significant gun controls. But very few senators and representatives would go along.

There are other issues where his speeches and writings make it clear that he favored socialistic/communist positions on a number of issues. That he couldn't get legislation passed to accomplish them doesn't move him to the right politically.

And republicans didn't hold either house for the first two years, in fact he had supermajorities in both, and didn't take the senate until the last two, so the comment about republicans holding the house and senate is simply false.

Quote:This is what I was getting at - a lot of the talk from you and others on this board about liberal candidates tries to pain them as these socialist/communists, but really, they are just on the liberal end of the spectrum.

Last I checked, socialism/communism WAS the liberal end of the spectrum.