(05-12-2017 01:38 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 01:13 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 01:09 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 11:28 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Fair enough that the term "chastise" probably isn't the correct term to use, nor was it right in terms of the 'extremism' implication of it. Good point.

I still stand by my assertion about "lines being crossed" (or the lack thereof), which was the main point of my reply.

I like and respect RiceLad, even though if it came down to it he and I would probably not agree on many policy points. But, I will say, and with no rancor intended, that RiceLad's 'line being crossed' threshold was/is pretty small, perhaps even to the point of it not even really being existent at Inauguration Day.

Nothing wrong with that at all, it is a free country to think what you want, and discuss upon it.

But the comparison being laid down of whether whose 'line length' is longer seems somewhat superfluous given the rather infinitesimally thin line length for those whom probably never supported Trump over Hillary in the first place. Sorry to get your dander up about that observation.

Be good and have a great weekend.

I had hope for the POTUS on inauguration day.

It's just that my blind hope of him transforming into a normal human being evaporated pretty quickly because of the foundation he laid. I don't think he has done anything yet that, with what is known, amounts to an impeachable offense.

However, there are just so many ridiculous situations/instances that he has been involved with, and continues to be involved with, that I have no idea how a sane person can continue to try and defend his actions. I can understand saying he doesn't deserved to be impeached, but not that he is failing spectacularly at any number of aspects of his job.

Yeah, I had hope for Obama on Inauguration Day, 2009. I hoped he would move toward the middle. I was disappointed in that.

Which to me, is pretty laughable because he didn't actually move that left. He didn't ram through single payer healthcare, he stole no guns, taxes were only raised just slightly at the top of the tax bracket, drugs were not decriminalized nationwide, and the rate of spending increase stopped and we eventually saw reductions in the deficit each year the last 5 or 6 years of his presidency.

I won't go further down this rabbit hole, but when you say he didn't pivot towards the middle, what policies disappointed you and weren't more centrist? I'm genuinely curious about what policies he actually enacted that were too far left. The auto bailout and stimulus?

i had hoped he would move to the middle, which in his case would be a move to the right. o, when you he didn't move that far left, iany movement to the left was not what I wamted. Often camdidate preach left to their base, work toward the middle to get bipartisan suppot.

What did he do that I liked, would be a much shorter list.

1. Gave the order to proceed on bin Laden.

Guess that's it. i didn't like publicizing a date certain to withdraw from Iraq, I didn't like Cash for Clunkers. Name some other things he did, and I will respnd to the list.