(02-14-2017 02:06 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 01:49 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 01:38 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 12:23 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 12:16 PM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  And less than a month in we have a GOP Senator calling for an investigation into Trump's Russia ties.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/31942...onnections

And now there are reports of Russia firing a cruise missle, an act that violated a 1987 treaty. This doesn't sound super serious, but with the reports of Flynn assisting Russia and his subsequent resignation, the heat is upon Trump again with regards to Russia.

Will be interesting to see what he does.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/wo...reaty.html

Are the reports that Flynn assisted Russia, or that he spoke with Russia prematurely in violation of a law crafted in 1799 with Ben Franklin in mind?

Does it matter? Flynn stepped down, if anything, because he lied. And he lied in a way that caused the VP to go on TV and lie to the American public. He obviously transgressed the rules of the Trump WH in such a way that he was (most likely) forced to step down.

edit: but to address your comment directly - him calling Russian officials ahead of an official announcement and providing them with information they had not officially received from the current or incoming administration is helpful - ergo assisting.

what information did he provide, and who told you this?

You make it sound as if he made this call: "Igor, comrade. There are things you need to know. Listen closely..."

Is that the accusation?

I agree, he lied. First real lie I have heard in this whole mess, and "lie" is thrown about daily now. To his bosses. I have heard the cover up is always worse than the crime.

OO, are you kidding me? Try reading the news. You seem to be stuck in this strange rut of deny, deny, deny regardless of what credible news agencies are reporting. Can't you do some digging on your own and discuss the results of that?

The Flynn-Russia thing has been news for a while, and started heating up as more revelations come out. Quoting the WashPo (which I found as the first Google response for "flynn accusations russia sanctions":

Quote:National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election...

Officials said this week that the FBI is continuing to examine Flynn’s communications with Kislyak. Several officials emphasized that while sanctions were discussed, they did not see evidence that Flynn had an intent to convey an explicit promise to take action after the inauguration.

Flynn’s contacts with the ambassador attracted attention within the Obama administration because of the timing. U.S. intelligence agencies were then concluding that Russia had waged a cyber campaign designed in part to help elect Trump; his senior adviser on national security matters was discussing the potential consequences for Moscow, officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...ef7a451e7e

The biggest issue that is proven right now is that Flynn lied and that lie caused Pence to do so as well. So far, the initial accusations are that he communicated with the Russian ambassador about the existing and potential new sanctions. Another thing that came to light involving Flynn is that the Justice Dept. warned the Trump admin about a month ago that he could be susceptible to blackmail by the Russians due to his lying about the calls (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...796.html).