(01-20-2017 10:46 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 05:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The federal nature of our republic gives us the possibility of providing a guaranteed income and transferring the other welfare programs to the states, who could pick and choose which to keep.

But one side likes the idea of 50 different laboratories, while the other strangely persists in trying to consistently crater the idea and ideals embodied by the 10th amendment.

Interestingly the anti-side consistently conflates the verbalization of support of the 10th amendment with "racists".... and directly equates the paraphrase of that (states rights) with "racists". Funny how that happens......

You're right that generally liberals prefer a more federal approach to certain laws, and vice versa for Republicans. But let's continue down this divisive partisan path you're starting.

Right wingers say they're all for local control, until that local control goes against their interests. Just look at the high profile steps both North Carolina and Texas have taken to curb the rules that individual cities want to put in place. After Denton voted to ban fracking in their city limits, the state legislature, controlled by right wingers, decided to override a communities ability to govern themselves as they see fit. And in North Carolina, the right wing bathroom bill that has stripped jobs and revenue from the state was only done because rightwingers couldn't help but try to override another local bill that didn't fit with their view of how people should legislate their naughty bits.

I really wish that this forum would be more about discussion of ideas and the merits of them, or about current events in politics, than petty and divisive arguments that paint the "others" we disagree with, with a very large brush. Responses like yours and mine are the problem.

And by the way, the reason states' rights often gets conflated with racism (too frequently nowadays) is because of history. You do realize that states' rights was the leading argument behind Jim Crow laws remaining legal, right?