(12-15-2016 12:16 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 04:47 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 02:58 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  If the current warming is 70% natural and 30% man-caused, and if we can reverse 50% of the man-caused portion with policies, then we will have reversed 15% and 85% will continue.

I don't advocate a return to smokestack industries and smog. What I do advocate is an emphasis on learning to adjust to the changes, even as we act to slow their advance. Changes in what crops are planted where, development of heat resistant strains, etc. The climate has changed many times in the past, but in the past, we could adjust by moving the village a little farther from the lake or by moving our hunting grounds to the north. Not so in this day and age.

But if people like me were excluded from the government, wasn't that suppression of dissent? (Back to the topic)

So to your original comment to me. I don't think suppression of dissent is when the other side doesn't get equal coverage or focus. Suppression is when you actively try to stifle something even if people are pushing for it. Has there been evidence that researchers had to withdraw their findings because they conflicted with a certain narrative? Because if not, all you have are different priorities.

Active exclusion though, would count. Is there evidence that people applying for positions were being excluded because of their stance on climate change? Because right now, it looks like that may be happening, just not in the way one would expect.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/12/03/e...e-heretic/

Unfortunate to see and hear, but luckily this man was supported by his fellow academics and university. When did he work for the DOE or other federal departments? I read through the blog and couldn't find any information on that.

Also, I found it even more interesting that this researcher was just researching the effects of climate change on serious weather, and ran into such strong opposition. He wasn't even debating whether we had an impact on climate change, just that we haven't seen the severe weather episodes (e.g. Strong hurricanes) that we would expect, recently. This is an unfortunate example of people with influence not doing their homework, and unfairly critiscizing someone. Again, good thing he had the strong support of the academic community.