(04-13-2017 04:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 02:02 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 01:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 12:16 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 11:46 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Ego factor or not, but the HBCUs have been think of as being not as equals to the other universities which is why they are struggling. Tennessee State might be the only one doing all right not being in an HBCU conference. I think Florida A&M wanted to shed the HBCU image to join the Sun Belt, but backed out.
Alabama State wants to go to FBS as well and tried to talk to the SBC to let them in, but with South Alabama and Troy in the conference, they will not be let in. The only HBCUs that I could see be let in are Jackson State, Tennessee State, Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman since they do not have a presence in those states.
Jackson State could fill the Mississippi hole in the SBC. Plus, Jackson State is not really considered a HBCU anymore with them enrolling white kids. They might become another Ole Miss. school with a mix race population.

Dude you are a mountain of misinformation when it comes down to HBCUs. This is like the 3rd post of yours with 1/2 truths and whole lies that I've run across. Usually there's 0 HBCU presence on this board so it goes unchecked but dude stop.

Then, why are there any HBCUs in FBS if they are supposed to be equals to the others?

No this is about the lies that you've posted on this board. Let's go through them.

1. Alabama State does not desire to go FBS. We have not had any serious discussions about moving nor have we done ANY feasibility studies.
2. When did ANYONE from FAMU say that they wanted to "shed the HBCU image"?
3. When did JSU start not being considered an HBCU? JSUs white population has always bounced between 6-7.5% which is where it still is today. School demographics doesn't determine an HBCU which is what you seem to think is the case.

Like I said previously, stop making up stuff and passing it off as fact.

The info about Alabama State came up before Georgia State was invited to the SBC. The reason is that what people posted on the news website of the local paper there said something to the fact about Alabama State was talking to SBC about membership. Unless, someone gave that reporter false information? Than, that could be the case. A lot of misinformation have been posted on legit news sites about a sports team and all that. Alabama State does have an FBS size ready stadium if they ever do go to FBS.

Why about Florida A&M? Because they were invited to join FBS and SBC in the early 2000. The first year in transition, they reversed themselves and SBC wound up with a sucky FIU and FAU teams. They would have shed off the HBCU image if they continued on to join the SBC.

Why Jackson State not be considered hardly an HBCU? The reason is they have more of white students enrolled than many of the other HBCUs which seems they are not hurting with enrollment. There are many other students who are not black or white that goes there as well. I am not looking at just the black or white issues with the schools. I am looking at all that make up the population of the campus as students.

The bolded portion is untrue.
FAMU did announce it's intention to go FBS as independent and reached out to the Sun Belt. The SBC needed members and FAMU was an intriguing option given their history, first ever I-AA/FCS national champion, 12 HBCU national titles, bunches of conference titles, lot of NFL alums.
Commissioner did the campus visit bit (always a big event because it means you've got a great shot at an invite) and he came back and informed the membership that he thought they had too many issues to be considered.
They were never voted on and never received an invitation and shortly after they got a load of negative press because their accounting was a mess and they had way over-spent their budget in their attempt to transition.
They then opted to return to the MEAC.

Simply untrue that they had a spot in FBS.

I don't think joining the Sun Belt would have shed the HBCU imagine, it would have made them a higher profile HBCU.

A couple years before the Mobile bowl started, NCAA rules required a bowl site to have 50,000 seats unless it hosted a conference champion. Ladd-Peebles has 40somethingish thousand seats.

The organizers approached the Sun Belt's FBS members (Arkansas State, Louisiana Lafayette, and Louisiana Tech at that time) about forming a football conference with Southern, Jackson State, FAMU, and I think Grambling and I think Alabama State.

The Sun Belt offered to meet with the HBCU's to see if it might be feasible and they declined but maybe that helped plant the seed with FAMU.