(02-27-2017 11:34 AM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 11:27 AM)p23570 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 11:20 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 11:02 AM)p23570 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:50 AM)esayem Wrote:  UMass has proven if they have winning teams, the fanbase shows up. It's there, waiting for a reason. It could be a northeastern thing, I don't know, but it's not like there is a shortage of great sports to compete with in the area: the Patriots and Celtics for example. That's why comparisons to Iowa and Wyoming are ridiculous; those states have nothing else going on. UMass has a ton of alumni too, so when they are decent those attendance numbers will go up.

I don't believe they have a fanbase problem, just a winning problem. I commend UMass for taking the risk because unlike many other schools making the jump they absolutely have a high ceiling.

Wyoming has a similar AD budget, better fan support, better donations, better licensing, and requires much less subsidy to operate. It is a great comparison as it shows that population is meaningless. HAving less than a million people but twice as many football fans as UMAss speaks volumes about the support.

The reason you don't like me talking about it is because it highlights the shortcomings of UMAss, and presents a good case to drop to FCS.

What attendance data do you think suggests UMAss has large number of fans when they win?

That's the problem here. You guys keep making bogus claims about extra income from being in FBS and benefits to the schools budget and a great fanbase but there is nothing to back that up. Nothing. Fan support beyond hockey is terrible.

Thanks esayem, completely agree we have a winning problem and for P23570 let me give you a basketabll example from last night. The team has been playing poorly in A10 play and in the 84-71 win over LaSalle, there were 2811 tickets sold.

http://www.umassathletics.com/news/2017/...ath=mbball

Three years earlier when the team was good in A10 play, The Mullins was sold out, 9483, for our 80-75 win over VCU. So P23570, feel free to crunch those number 9483 - 2811 = 6672 and then multiply that by the number of our home games and average ticket price of $20. Then tell me the Football revenue is flat because the numbers.

Quote:When Smart sat down for his postgame press conference following the Massachusetts men's basketball team's 80-75 win over his Rams, though, the first thing he addressed wasn't about his own team's struggles. It wasn't about the heroics of Chaz Williams and the Minutemen either. It was about the Mullins Center crowd.

"First of all, terrific crowd," Smart said. "I thought the fans and the folks that organized them and ran the game -- it's a first-class basketball environment. I think it says a lot of about the job that coach [Derek] Kellogg and his staff and his players have done to build this program. Obviously, it's the type of environment that you love to play in as a college basketball player and it's a challenge to go on the road to places like this because the crowd creates a tremendous energy for the home team."

http://www.masslive.com/umassbasketball/...cart_river

Uh, this is about Football. But thanks for proving my point for me. Basketball attendance would likely drop if the move was made to the MAC from the A-10. Yet another reason to keep all sports in the A-10 and find a FCS FB home somewhere closeby.

Why don't the Sooners move down. Likely would result in less crime in the community.

This has nothing to do with OU. YOu are just mad becasue you have been proven wrong and are now trolling.

So predictable, like talking about endowment during conversations about an AD.

Do you think there would be a drop in BB interest playing in the MAC versus the a-10?