(07-16-2015 03:21 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 03:10 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Actually looking at the divisions....
For Greinke with LA....
Arizona #1 4.51 runs/game, 97 OPS+
Colorado #2 4.42, 95 OPS+
San Fran #4 4.24, 108 OPS+
San Diego #9 3.91, 88 OPS+
average team 4.27 runs/game, 97 OPS+

For Scherzer with Was....
Atlanta #10 3.90 91 OPS+
Miami #13 3.71 89 OPS+
NY Mets #14 3.48 84 OPS+
Philly #15 3.38 84 OPS+
average team 3.62 runs/game 87 OPS+

Scherzer with 4 starts with the Phillies(the worst offense in the league), and 2 with the Mets. Then 1 each with the Braves and Marlins.

I don't like using runs per game because it kind of skews in the Rockies favor. Anyway, I pointed all those things out, didn't I? I guess I didn't notice that he faced the Phillies 4 times. If we take the division starts out, then Greinke's ERA is even better and Scherzer's is definitely worse. Not sure how that would change the peripherals, as I really don't want to do that much research. If you want to claim that Greinke has been better because he's faced tougher competition I'd be ok with that. If the voters don't dig any deeper than their stats, forgetting opponents, then it's obvious Scherzer's been better. But again, you're right about him facing easier competition

That's why I used the OPS+ which is in some ways even better because of the parks of the west being such good batters parks.

What's fun is the Nats and Dodgers can help their guy out this weekend by hammering the other one :)