(07-13-2015 02:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  my point is you can do things with smoke and mirrors for a while- like what Tampa has done. But eventually over a full 162, things wind up where they should. And the 6-15 stretch the Rays are in shows just that. And it's not just the 6-15 record. In those 21 games, they've scored 68 runs- 3rd lowest in the league, but allowed 97 runs- 4th most in the league.

1st 70 games- Tampa scored 264 allowed 244- avg of 3.77-3.49 runs per game
last 21 games- scored 68 allowed 97 avg of 3.24-4.62 runs per game

I just think looking at their roster like you say, the last 21 games is far more indicative of Tampa than the 1st 70 games.

The team that has underachieved is Toronto. Right now they should be 8 games better than they are. You have got to wonder if Gibbons may be in danger. Especially with NY and Tampa over-achieving the way they have been.

so you're saying the Rays have overachieved?

I don't know what you want Gibbons to do with that pitching staff. The rotation and Pen are hot garbage. When Buehrle is your best starter, you have a big problem.