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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(08-19-2018 09:22 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(08-19-2018 08:32 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(08-19-2018 04:52 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  If the money isn't as good and the terrible competition continues to result in either missing the playoffs or getting blown out in round one then they have no reason to stay.

Where they go is highly debatable as is who if anyone will get to tag along but they will leave

The playoff question is an interesting one. How often is each league making an appearance?

SEC = 4/4
ACC = 4/4
Big Ten = 3/4
PAC 12 = 2/4
Big 12 = 2/4

Technically, you could say the SEC made 5 trips in 4 years, but you get the point.

For the Big Ten, their last two entrants were absolutely embarrassed and I believe that's part of the reason OSU got left out last year. That league may have more trouble than people expect when it comes to CFP appearances. They've got plenty of money though so it's not an urgent matter.

Interestingly enough, the PAC and Big 12 are competing for the league that's most likely to be left out in any given year.

We've got a few more years to see what this breakdown looks like. Right now, I don't think we have any solid trends with regard to how often a league like the Big 12 will get left out. One thing is for certain though, unless it's OU or UT, the odds of a Big 12 school getting in are slimmer unless they have a perfect record.

Which brings us back to the core problem that the Big 12 has, not enough market strength and too few bell cows. Those factors lend themselves to stronger conferences and that alone could drive OU and UT to abandon ship.

The most profitable thing for Oklahoma and Texas to do is to join the SEC as a pair with no tag-a-longs. After next year that would boost our payouts over the 51 million mark. Then Texas would split the recruits from Texas with only one other in state school, A&M. Oklahoma would continue to recruit DFW and both separate themselves from the schools they elevated to their status.

If the PAC takes Tech and T.C.U. fine, it still won't be the destination that holds the interest the way OU and UT would in the SEC with A&M and Arkansas and Missouri.

The future for college football is not rosy, but the future of college football will remain lucrative in the Southeast far beyond the life of college football in the Northeast and the West, and probably longer than around the mid Atlantic.

We have the recruits and between Texas and the SEC the lions share for the nation. Our culture will follow football longer than any other and we share diamond sports as a priority.

Arkansas, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M

in the West and an East that looks like this:

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

would create one helluva super conference with enough branding in each division to sell those on a cable network separately and profitably.

We might easily take our earnings north of 60 million with the T3 rights on those two divisions bundled, or sold separately.

Each division has 5 solid brands and with the exception of Vandy, no real perennial cellar dweller.

Hands down that's the best conference in college football ever! And only improving on the current SEC.

If the schools get to move according to their self interest, and not strictly at the network's behest then this is still possible.

We profit with either and a little brother. We blows the walls off the sucker with both.

I certainly have no desire to get into a pissing match but I thought you might find this interesting in light of the tag along/little brother comments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/s...09aa82798d

In 1990, the SEC considered expanding with UT, A&M, Arkansas, Florida St, Miami and South Carolina. Again, I have no desire to get into an internet fight but would like to point out a few things.

In 1990, A&M had 41,710 students enrolled and averaged 54,318 that year in the SWC ---- the Tech game having the highest attendance. I might add that the AAU invited A&M in 2001.

This past year Tech had 36,996 students enrolled and averaged 55,065 in football.

With SEC membership, I wouldn't rule out 40-45k students and an average attendance in football around 70k. IMHO, Tech is not a little brother but rather a big University.
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SEC Expansion - vandiver49 - 10-11-2013, 08:43 AM
RE: If the SEC did expand - 10thMountain - 05-02-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: B12 - jhawkmvp - 05-02-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: - Transic_nyc - 11-04-2014, 02:34 AM
schools making profits - jhawkmvp - 11-12-2014, 12:32 AM
RE: expansion - oliveandblue - 12-03-2014, 12:41 AM
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