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schools making profits
To demonstrate why the ACC is in weak financial shape (and shows how much weaker financially PAC schools are than people realize) if they get no network or lose a money school like FSU this is a partial post I made on the Ohio State scout board regarding who can afford stipends:

From this article. Worth reading.

Percentage of Publics making a profit (Revenue minus subsidies minus expenses) :

B1G = 5/13 = 38%; 45% without RU/UMD
ACC = 0/8 = 0%
B12 = 5/8 = 63%
SEC = 8/13 = 62%
PAC = 2/12 = 17%

Athletic department Revenue minus subsidies minus expenses
1 Ohio State $23,612,978
2 Alabama $21,377,437
3 Oklahoma $21,358,108
4 Texas $18,883,901
5 Florida $18,593,745
6 Oregon $17,930,985
7 Michigan $12,239,982
8 LSU $12,145,380
9 Kansas $10,523,506
10 Kansas State $8,645,452
11 Texas A&M $8,252,345
12 Arkansas $5,611,468
13 Washington $5,526,960
14 Nebraska $5,249,732
15 Missouri $4,515,874
16 Texas Tech $2,610,828
17 Michigan State $2,426,782
18 Mississippi State $2,401,801
19 Indiana $1,501,254
20 Kentucky $1,450,017
21 West Virginia -$256,382
22 Iowa -$494,287
23 South Carolina -$1,150,687
24 Florida State -$1,250,052
25 Iowa State -$1,701,229
26 Mississippi -$1,757,355
27 Clemson -$1,786,346
28 Army -$1,809,124
29 Georgia -$2,021,692
30 NC State -$2,187,085
31 Purdue -$2,248,610
32 UCLA -$2,627,405
33 Mississippi Valley State -$2,821,442
34 Coppin State -$2,841,826
35 Illinois -$2,854,991
36 New Orleans -$2,958,136
37 California -$3,206,245
38 Southern -$3,667,227
39 Jackson State -$3,759,290
40 Auburn -$3,761,388
41 Nicholls State -$4,215,256
42 Louisiana-Monroe -$4,310,393
43 Virginia Tech -$4,440,171
44 North Carolina Asheville -$4,489,075
45 Alcorn State -$4,618,066
46 Maryland-Eastern Shore -$4,706,375
47 Savannah State -$4,762,591
48 Wisconsin-Green Bay -$4,780,597
49 VMI -$4,806,916
50 McNeese State -$5,095,089
51 Grambling State -$5,204,238
52 Chicago State -$5,275,634
53 Wisconsin -$5,377,457
54 Alabama A&M -$5,396,160
55 Arkansas-Pine Bluff -$5,728,503
56 Arkansas-Little Rock -$5,760,584
57 Indiana-Purdue Fort Wayne -$5,772,240
58 Penn State -$5,985,736
59 Florida A&M -$6,175,320
60 Southern Illinois Edwardsville -$6,183,872
61 Minnesota -$6,242,029
72 Arizona -$7,069,123
73 Louisville -$7,104,013
105 Georgia Tech -$8,997,538
109 North Carolina -$9,098,018
127 Arizona State -$10,046,641
129 Oklahoma State -$10,223,965
139 Oregon State -$10,987,336
142 Tennessee -$11,123,471
145 Washington State -$11,450,578
164 Utah -$12,904,369
165 Virginia -$12,918,432
177 Colorado -$15,090,588
178 Maryland -$15,122,744
230 Rutgers -$46,996,697

Much depends on accounting practices, facilities improvements, conference changes, etc. and this list will change from year to year. So a school that is usually profitable may be shown losing money, but for the most part schools on the list consistently show up here, especially at the top. Privates not included. Edited out some non P5 to make this post fit, see article for entire list.

Most PAC, B1G, and ACC schools would see increased profitability if they cut back on the number of non-revenue sports they offer. The B12 and SEC offer much fewer non-revnue sports and it has resulted in stronger AD departments on the average. I think you will see more sports cut going forward to offset additional costs of athlete compensation.
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2014 01:18 AM by jhawkmvp.)
11-12-2014 12:32 AM
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SEC Expansion - vandiver49 - 10-11-2013, 08:43 AM
RE: If the SEC did expand - 10thMountain - 05-02-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: B12 - jhawkmvp - 05-02-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: - Transic_nyc - 11-04-2014, 02:34 AM
schools making profits - jhawkmvp - 11-12-2014 12:32 AM
RE: expansion - oliveandblue - 12-03-2014, 12:41 AM
My wild guess - jhawkmvp - 12-09-2014, 12:39 AM
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