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Quote:California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person’s sexual orientation. That doesn’t sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well.

Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality.

The bill calls on states to prohibit efforts to change a minor’s sexual orientation, even if the minor requests it, saying that doing so is “dangerous and harmful.”

The text of the legislation doesn’t specifically ban “gay” conversion therapy. Instead, it prohibits attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation.

“Sexual orientation change efforts’ means any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation,” the bill says.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that, “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation.” However, the Democrats defeated the amendment. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality.

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I knew it was only a matter of time.

Gay people = pedophiles.

Don't like the association, come out in opposition.
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(04-03-2013 12:34 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person’s sexual orientation. That doesn’t sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well.

Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality.

The bill calls on states to prohibit efforts to change a minor’s sexual orientation, even if the minor requests it, saying that doing so is “dangerous and harmful.”

The text of the legislation doesn’t specifically ban “gay” conversion therapy. Instead, it prohibits attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation.

“Sexual orientation change efforts’ means any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation,” the bill says.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that, “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation.” However, the Democrats defeated the amendment. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality.

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I knew it was only a matter of time.
Gay people = pedophiles.

Don't like the association, come out in opposition.

Faster than most anticipated.
04-03-2013 12:41 PM
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Not shocked one bit
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Liking little kids is a sexual preference, not orientation. How come a convicted pedophile in California cant live within certain distances from schools, parks, or other places where kids congregate? It's because people are afraid of them. Now they're being protected. I guess the only way to make this problem go away is to shoot them.
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Yep, there's no slippery slope.
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(04-03-2013 12:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Liking little kids is a sexual preference, not orientation. How come a convicted pedophile in California cant live within certain distances from schools, parks, or other places where kids congregate? It's because people are afraid of them. Now they're being protected. I guess the only way to make this problem go away is to shoot them.

Both terms are conjured up BS
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Something tells me that this needs to be looked into more given the source.
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Quote:Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality.

Anyone running against him should get the audio of this and play it in a continuous loop over video of kids on a playground.
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(04-03-2013 01:11 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Something tells me that this needs to be looked into more given the source.

Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=jackie+sp...68&bih=928
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Someone needs to stomp her butt. Inexcusable.
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Ummm...looks like you folks might be bamboozled here.

1. CA bill SB 1172 is clearly worded that it applies to only Gay, Lesbian and Bisexuals.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill...n_v97.html

2. Pedophilia can be opposite sex as well. The CA bill is to prohibit gay conversion therapy basically.

3. The CA bill has been blocked by a judge.
http://www.californiahealthline.org/arti...tment.aspx

4. Speier introduced a resolution last November but it never made it out of committee.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hconres141

5. The quote by Hastings applies to a totally different bill as taken from something unrelated (the Shephard and Byrd Hate Crime Bill of 2009 I believe) according to this article from 2011.
http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

Looks like you all owe Robert and apology. Yeah I won't hold my breath.

And see Rebel, I didn't even call you stupid. 03-wink
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Never said it made it out of any committee, did I? You basically just backed up everything I posted.
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No Rebel, your linked article contained a quote sourced to Hastings that he may have never said and certainly never said about this issue. The bill never made it out of committee. Hastings was not on that committee. Your articles say he added an amendment that he never did. It says the Republicans defeated that amendment. The article is a fabrication.

And her resolution says nothing that can be construed to mean it applied to pedophiles.

Face it. You've been had again.
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(04-03-2013 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No Rebel, your linked article contained a quote sourced to Hastings that he may have never said and certainly never said about this issue.

And her resolution says nothing that can be construed to mean it applied to pedophiles.

Face it. You've been had again.

It's called "putting two and two together". Seeing the writing on the wall. We see what you on the left support. This is how sh*t legislation is started. Haven't been had on anything. Two prominent Dims showing their true colors.
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Rebel, you're a complete fraud. Would someone please tell Rebel. He certainly isn't going to take it from me.

Unbelievable.

The articled flat out contains false information. Jeez, please tell me you can see that? Please?
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(04-03-2013 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Rebel, you're a complete fraud. Would someone please tell Rebel. He certainly isn't going to take it from me.

Unbelievable.

The articled flat out contains false information. Jeez, please tell me you can see that? Please?

False information? Was a bill not proposed? Did Alcee Hastings and the rest of the Dim rats not defeat an amendment specifying that pedophilia is not covered as an orientation? It doesn't matter if they were different bills. These type of things always take a multifaceted approach.

I see the writing on the wall, Tom. You have to wait until it's drawn out in a pretty picture for you. This is how these moonbat Prog movements start.
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(04-03-2013 12:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Liking little kids is a sexual preference, not orientation. How come a convicted pedophile in California cant live within certain distances from schools, parks, or other places where kids congregate? It's because people are afraid of them. Now they're being protected. I guess the only way to make this problem go away is to shoot them.

Look the idea that we should *criminalize* anyone's attempt to change their sexual orientation is the root problem here. Especially if the person in question ask for it..

By dragging the pedo's into this we won't talk about the real problem.

As to the fact Pedo's would be protected... It's just a matter of time so long as we have decided that gender and sexual identity lines mean nothing.
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(04-03-2013 03:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 12:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Liking little kids is a sexual preference, not orientation. How come a convicted pedophile in California cant live within certain distances from schools, parks, or other places where kids congregate? It's because people are afraid of them. Now they're being protected. I guess the only way to make this problem go away is to shoot them.

Look the idea that we should *criminalize* anyone's attempt to change their sexual orientation is the root problem here. Especially if the person in question ask for it..

By dragging the pedo's into this we won't talk about the real problem.

As to the fact Pedo's would be protected... It's just a matter of time so long as we have decided that gender and sexual identity lines mean nothing.

One of the problems bound to arise is the criminal behavior part. Fanticizing about little kids kids is one thing, but it's a criminal offense to act on it. Legitimizing pedophilia as sexual orientation could probably justify that behavior in the minds of some people.

Only in Cailfornia would this even be remotely considered.
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(04-03-2013 03:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 03:11 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-03-2013 12:43 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Liking little kids is a sexual preference, not orientation. How come a convicted pedophile in California cant live within certain distances from schools, parks, or other places where kids congregate? It's because people are afraid of them. Now they're being protected. I guess the only way to make this problem go away is to shoot them.

Look the idea that we should *criminalize* anyone's attempt to change their sexual orientation is the root problem here. Especially if the person in question ask for it..

By dragging the pedo's into this we won't talk about the real problem.

As to the fact Pedo's would be protected... It's just a matter of time so long as we have decided that gender and sexual identity lines mean nothing.

One of the problems bound to arise is the criminal behavior part. Fanticizing about little kids kids is one thing, but it's a criminal offense to act on it. Legitimizing pedophilia as sexual orientation could probably justify that behavior in the minds of some people.

Only in Cailfornia would this even be remotely considered.

Hastings is from Florida and he doesn't seem to have a problem with them.
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(04-03-2013 03:17 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  One of the problems bound to arise is the criminal behavior part. Fanticizing about little kids kids is one thing, but it's a criminal offense to act on it. Legitimizing pedophilia as sexual orientation could probably justify that behavior in the minds of some people.

Only in Cailfornia would this even be remotely considered.

*today* smn, Only in California today.
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