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RE: Mountain Bikes
(02-22-2012 10:46 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 06:54 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Went in All About Bikes today and they couldn't have been more friendly. Met Frank and spoke with him a while. I would definitely check their store out if I were you. I bought my road bike at The Peddler because I had a big gift certificate and every time I've gone in there I have had to go find an associate to help me. Myself and my coworker were greeted immediately as we walked into AAB today.

I've always been helped at Peddler even when I'm just browsing at the bike pron.

I love Trek bikes, but not impressed with the Peddler. I went in there with money in hand and they told me I couldn't buy a bike for 2 months. They weren't eager either to help me find a bike.

Bikes Plus was super friendly and helped me make a wise choice.
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(02-22-2012 10:44 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 09:36 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 03:20 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 02:09 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  if you rebuild a bike, can you change the configuration of a frame to keep from hunching over so much? I'm not familiar with how many parts make up a frame; if it's just one piece, obviously I'm SOL.

my bike is an old (early/mid 90's) "mountain" type bike, but the tires are super skinny...obviously not meant to really go off-road; it just looks like it. the handlebars are straight across, and I'm hunched over, no matter how high or low I put the seat.

I wouldn't be opposed to rebuilding it at all...it's still in decent shape; I just have a few more requirements for comfort than I did when I was 20.

If you want to ride more upright, you'd be better off to just get a new bike. The Trek Navigator is a nice line.

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/tow...navigator/

I was going this route before I decided to go with more of a crosstrail/hybrid bike with a little more aggressive ride.

I like the look of that Navigator....especially the 'low to the ground' setup. That's what I liked about Electra as well....

I'm only 5'2", so most 'normal size' frame bikes have me on the very edge of my tiptoes when I put my feet down, even with the seat lowered all the way down.

You don't sit on the seat when both your feet on the ground. You stand over your top tube when stopped. You can lean on one foot while on the seat. Google proper seat height for a bike and it will explain it for you. Your legs should have a slight bend with the pedal stroke all the way down.

Your frame size should allow your to stand over your top tube like you are stopped. The bar should be about an inch from your crotch. This is a VERY important measurement when sizing a bike. Any bike shop will help you with this.

sidenote: i've fallen over this way with clip in pedals when I leaned the opposite way I normally lean. Thank god for a helmet.

yeah, i know i'm not supposed to be flat-footed when i'm on the seat, and I don't really need to be....but I don't want to feel like a ballerina in toe shoes if I instinctively put my feet down without hopping off the seat, either.

for most "normal" frame sizes (15" for women, maybe? can't remember), i don't have the slight bend in the knee with the pedal all the way down.
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(02-22-2012 10:48 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I love Trek bikes, but not impressed with the Peddler. I went in there with money in hand and they told me I couldn't buy a bike for 2 months. They weren't eager either to help me find a bike.

They were helpful when I went in there, but my issue with them is the upsell....I went in there specifically stating that I'm just getting started, so didn't want to break the bank, and they gave me a whole line of "oh, yeah - we have plenty of options that will be perfect....." and then immediately steered me toward an $800 bike.

may have been more the salesperson than the place, but it just put a bad taste in my mouth, especially considering all the competition opening up all around.
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(02-22-2012 11:08 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 10:48 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I love Trek bikes, but not impressed with the Peddler. I went in there with money in hand and they told me I couldn't buy a bike for 2 months. They weren't eager either to help me find a bike.

They were helpful when I went in there, but my issue with them is the upsell....I went in there specifically stating that I'm just getting started, so didn't want to break the bank, and they gave me a whole line of "oh, yeah - we have plenty of options that will be perfect....." and then immediately steered me toward an $800 bike.

may have been more the salesperson than the place, but it just put a bad taste in my mouth, especially considering all the competition opening up all around.

They are the only Trek retailer in the city so if you are brand loyal to Trek and alot of people are they have you. Sometimes it is just the salesman because I've had that experience at Outdoors- Cordova and the next time I go in I have someone pretty honest helping me.
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completely off-topic, but here's a bicycle question for the ages....

why do men's bikes have the higher crossbar, and women's either don't have it, or have a low one? you would think that a man wouldn't be too keen on a metal bar being that close to some 'sensitive material.' just do away with it!
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(02-22-2012 11:35 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  completely off-topic, but here's a bicycle question for the ages....

why do men's bikes have the higher crossbar, and women's either don't have it, or have a low one? you would think that a man wouldn't be too keen on a metal bar being that close to some 'sensitive material.' just do away with it!

With adult bikes they don't do that now but the only thing I can think of is that women would enter the bike with modesty and not slinging their leg over the seat and women wore dresses back in the day before they got all uppity....






no not srs on the uppity thing







well kinda srs
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(02-22-2012 11:47 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 11:35 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  completely off-topic, but here's a bicycle question for the ages....

why do men's bikes have the higher crossbar, and women's either don't have it, or have a low one? you would think that a man wouldn't be too keen on a metal bar being that close to some 'sensitive material.' just do away with it!

With adult bikes they don't do that now but the only thing I can think of is that women would enter the bike with modesty and not slinging their leg over the seat and women wore dresses back in the day before they got all uppity....






no not srs on the uppity thing







well kinda srs

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RE: Mountain Bikes
(02-22-2012 10:48 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 10:46 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 06:54 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Went in All About Bikes today and they couldn't have been more friendly. Met Frank and spoke with him a while. I would definitely check their store out if I were you. I bought my road bike at The Peddler because I had a big gift certificate and every time I've gone in there I have had to go find an associate to help me. Myself and my coworker were greeted immediately as we walked into AAB today.

I've always been helped at Peddler even when I'm just browsing at the bike pron.

I love Trek bikes, but not impressed with the Peddler. I went in there with money in hand and they told me I couldn't buy a bike for 2 months. They weren't eager either to help me find a bike.

Bikes Plus was super friendly and helped me make a wise choice.

The Peddler has more demand than they can deal with so customer service is not at the top of their priority list. I wish it were different, that store is 2 minutes from my home.

Go see kenny and andrea at outdoors in Cordova. very knowledgeable and thorough and they are mountain bikers first and road bikers second. Andrea came in 3rd in a world cross event recently.

My advice to anyone in Memphis is to buy parts/frame/bike on-line to get the best deal and then to use outdoors in Cordova for service.
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(02-21-2012 06:59 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  Sounds like you want a mountain bike.

I would recommend a good brand name bike. Don't get a hybrid. Definitely get 29 inch rims, you will not regret it. It rolls faster and over stuff easier. Get disc brakes and at least 100m travel front fork. Make sure it has a lockout on it.

Suntour is a cheaper front shock, but i'm guessing it's still decent. I got rockshox and like them. The better forks (yet not as pricey) are rockshox or fox, then you move up to the really nice forks which are extremely expensive.

I'm pretty current on all the mountain bikes after buying a real nice one last year.

I'll look up some later and post some good link suggestions. I saw a 2012 trek 29er with suntour shock for $520 the other day. If you get a bike with rockshox or fox fork, you might have to step up to around $650-$1000. Those bikes usually have better components too as well as the better fork.

I recommend to buy online. Check ebay for new but older models or sometimes a nice bike appears on craigslist.

If you got the money, get a full suspension. Most likely a 29er with front suspension only and disc brakes will make you very happy.


Everything he just said. Get a 29er that's a few years old to save some $$$ and look on craigslist or ebay. I bought a year old EMD 9er last season and love it.
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(02-22-2012 09:36 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 03:20 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 02:09 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  if you rebuild a bike, can you change the configuration of a frame to keep from hunching over so much? I'm not familiar with how many parts make up a frame; if it's just one piece, obviously I'm SOL.

my bike is an old (early/mid 90's) "mountain" type bike, but the tires are super skinny...obviously not meant to really go off-road; it just looks like it. the handlebars are straight across, and I'm hunched over, no matter how high or low I put the seat.

I wouldn't be opposed to rebuilding it at all...it's still in decent shape; I just have a few more requirements for comfort than I did when I was 20.

If you want to ride more upright, you'd be better off to just get a new bike. The Trek Navigator is a nice line.

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/tow...navigator/

I was going this route before I decided to go with more of a crosstrail/hybrid bike with a little more aggressive ride.

I like the look of that Navigator....especially the 'low to the ground' setup. That's what I liked about Electra as well....

I'm only 5'2", so most 'normal size' frame bikes have me on the very edge of my tiptoes when I put my feet down, even with the seat lowered all the way down.

At 5'2" I would not suggest a 29er. The big tires would be too much on you. More than likely you would need a S or XS 26er or possibly even a bike with 24" tires.

The most important thing on a Mountain Bike is how you fit in the cockpit.

What style of riding do you have around you? Is it more XC or do you have Mountains?

Giants are typically the best bike for the $$$ that you can spend; however, I would not purchase their cheapest full suspension bike.
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(02-22-2012 12:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  At 5'2" I would not suggest a 29er. The big tires would be too much on you. More than likely you would need a S or XS 26er or possibly even a bike with 24" tires.

The most important thing on a Mountain Bike is how you fit in the cockpit.

What style of riding do you have around you? Is it more XC or do you have Mountains?

Giants are typically the best bike for the $$$ that you can spend; however, I would not purchase their cheapest full suspension bike.

I'm not interested in a mountain bike; that was the OP.

I'm interested in more of a comfort/hybrid/road bike, just for casual Greenline riding right now.
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(02-20-2012 09:15 PM)egrizzard Wrote:  Okay---I jam just getting into to this trail riding thing. I bought a cheap bike to make sure I would like it, and I was wrong-- I LOVE it. Except for the gears slipping on steep hills and slamming my knees into the handlebars , that is. I think it is time to buy a better bike. I ride Shelby Farms, Shelby Forest, and Herb Parsons, and the occasional wolf river trail. I am not looking to race or do anything crazy, but I would like a nice solid bike for a beginner that will function well.

Any suggestions? There are s many out there, it is overwhelming.

Thanks

I am not familiar with your area, so I have no idea what type of terrain you have around you, but let me give you how I would start off...

I would start with a hardtail. You can get a whole lot more bike for the $$$ on a hardtail. Plus, if you aren't doing any crazy rocky steep downhills, you really don't need the rear suspension. Plus, the hardtail will make you a better rider.

Depending on your height, I prefer a 29er (personal preference), but would not go the 29er route unless you were going to spend at least $1K on the bike.

Get either BB7(dual pads) Mechanical Disc brakes or hydraulic disc brakes. Trust me, when it's wet outside, you will be glad to have the disc brakes.

For the drive train, I would either go with a 2X10, 3X10, or 3X9 (what I currently have). Unless you are one of those freeks that like single speed bikes.

For Derailuer (sp?)....Shimano XT or XTR rear, or SRAM X5, X7, X9, XO for rear. You can go as low as a Shimano Deore for the front and still get a good shift.

Front Fork, 80-120 MM suspension. With forks, you get what you pay for. My bike has a Dart 3, and it is crap, but I just can't bring myself to spring the 700-1000 for a new Fox Fork.

Tires....it all depends on your terrain. I ride a Panaracer Rampage 2.35 in the front and a Geax Saguaro 2.2 in the back. I love my tires, but that Rampage is as heavy as a boat anchor, but with all the sand I have on my local trails, the width helps me glide right over it while my back tire digs in to keep me moving.
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(02-22-2012 01:08 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 12:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  At 5'2" I would not suggest a 29er. The big tires would be too much on you. More than likely you would need a S or XS 26er or possibly even a bike with 24" tires.

The most important thing on a Mountain Bike is how you fit in the cockpit.

What style of riding do you have around you? Is it more XC or do you have Mountains?

Giants are typically the best bike for the $$$ that you can spend; however, I would not purchase their cheapest full suspension bike.

I'm not interested in a mountain bike; that was the OP.

I'm interested in more of a comfort/hybrid/road bike, just for casual Greenline riding right now.

Sorry...sometimes I get confused.

At the same time, Giants are still typically the best bike for the money whether you are buying a mtn, road, or hybrid bike. For the record, I do not own a Giant. I ride a Specialized.
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(02-22-2012 12:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 09:36 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 03:20 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 02:09 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  if you rebuild a bike, can you change the configuration of a frame to keep from hunching over so much? I'm not familiar with how many parts make up a frame; if it's just one piece, obviously I'm SOL.

my bike is an old (early/mid 90's) "mountain" type bike, but the tires are super skinny...obviously not meant to really go off-road; it just looks like it. the handlebars are straight across, and I'm hunched over, no matter how high or low I put the seat.

I wouldn't be opposed to rebuilding it at all...it's still in decent shape; I just have a few more requirements for comfort than I did when I was 20.

If you want to ride more upright, you'd be better off to just get a new bike. The Trek Navigator is a nice line.

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/tow...navigator/

I was going this route before I decided to go with more of a crosstrail/hybrid bike with a little more aggressive ride.

I like the look of that Navigator....especially the 'low to the ground' setup. That's what I liked about Electra as well....

I'm only 5'2", so most 'normal size' frame bikes have me on the very edge of my tiptoes when I put my feet down, even with the seat lowered all the way down.

At 5'2" I would not suggest a 29er. The big tires would be too much on you. More than likely you would need a S or XS 26er or possibly even a bike with 24" tires.

The most important thing on a Mountain Bike is how you fit in the cockpit.

What style of riding do you have around you? Is it more XC or do you have Mountains?

Giants are typically the best bike for the $$$ that you can spend; however, I would not purchase their cheapest full suspension bike.

I don't think she is looking for a full suspension bike at all. We have two dialogues going on here. The OP should consider teh 29'er but tigergreen just needs a hybrid I think
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(02-22-2012 01:12 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 01:08 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-22-2012 12:44 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  At 5'2" I would not suggest a 29er. The big tires would be too much on you. More than likely you would need a S or XS 26er or possibly even a bike with 24" tires.

The most important thing on a Mountain Bike is how you fit in the cockpit.

What style of riding do you have around you? Is it more XC or do you have Mountains?

Giants are typically the best bike for the $$$ that you can spend; however, I would not purchase their cheapest full suspension bike.

I'm not interested in a mountain bike; that was the OP.

I'm interested in more of a comfort/hybrid/road bike, just for casual Greenline riding right now.

Sorry...sometimes I get confused.

At the same time, Giants are still typically the best bike for the money whether you are buying a mtn, road, or hybrid bike. For the record, I do not own a Giant. I ride a Specialized.

Agreed on the Giant they are best bang for the buck on road bikes too at the entry level.
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For Mountain Bike Info overload, try http://www.mtbr.com . They have reviews, classifieds, and a montstrous message board with bike brand, local trails, and all sorts of specific information.

You can find me in the NorCal section under the username GrayBeard Pirate. I know the username suprised you.
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Did egrizzard get price shock? I know i did when i first started looking at bikes. It had been a while since my last bike purchase.
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I got a full suspension aluminum bike. The next step up is carbon fiber which is lighter and more expensive, but i really don't trust it. I think a lot of people still do though. I know of one rider who got hurt when his bike broke down this past summer.

Giant isn't a bad brand bike. If you feel like you can trust carbon fiber, I just found a 2011 giant trance sl carbon fiber bike (full suspension) for $800. If it is in as good as shape as they claim, this is a deal. The only bad thing is it is not 29" rims, but it is still a top level 26" bike for $800. Fox shocks all around. 120 travel on the front.

http://memphis.craigslist.org/bik/2865368581.html

It is a large size bike which would probably work for someone 5'8" to 6'2". If you go this route, make sure you check the frame really well, tire condition, gear condition, brake condition, etc.

I think this bike sells for around $2500. So if the bike checks out ok, it is a good deal at $800.
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(02-22-2012 08:04 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  I got a full suspension aluminum bike. The next step up is carbon fiber which is lighter and more expensive, but i really don't trust it. I think a lot of people still do though. I know of one rider who got hurt when his bike broke down this past summer.

Giant isn't a bad brand bike. If you feel like you can trust carbon fiber, I just found a 2011 giant trance sl carbon fiber bike (full suspension) for $800. If it is in as good as shape as they claim, this is a deal. The only bad thing is it is not 29" rims, but it is still a top level 26" bike for $800. Fox shocks all around. 120 travel on the front.

http://memphis.craigslist.org/bik/2865368581.html

It is a large size bike which would probably work for someone 5'8" to 6'2". If you go this route, make sure you check the frame really well, tire condition, gear condition, brake condition, etc.

I think this bike sells for around $2500. So if the bike checks out ok, it is a good deal at $800.

That is an unbelievable deal.
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I almost think it is a typo. Maybe he means $1800. Again, not a 29er, but a very nice bike. Probably very lightweight too.
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