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C-USA & MWC dissolving to merge 2013: Affects new BE teams' buyouts?
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.co...2/34822810

I don't KNOW anything yet, but I'm guessing the media rights buyout fee is kaput, b/c the two leagues are dissolving to void their current media contracts. Good for Memphis, since it's estimated to be (a negotiable) $6.1M.

This might also affect the conference buyout fees, but maybe that one is still enforceable? For Memphis, it's only $500K anyway, as a charter member of C-USA.

Interesting development for all the new BE teams except Navy.
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i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
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(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.
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(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot
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(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.

i would be shocked if it gets bigger than 18 teams...(with 1 or 2 being football only)
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I believe they have caught onto what the BE is up too and are forming a western contingent of the same. 03-shhhh
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(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.
It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot
They could always add a few miles to it (to put it mildly), and play the game in Hong Kong, to try to corner the Chinese market...
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(02-13-2012 04:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.
It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot
They could always add a few miles to it (to put it mildly), and play the game in Hong Kong, to try to corner the Chinese market...

Excellent Idea! 04-cheers LOL!
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Man, am I glad we got invited to the BEast! Our deadline to ink the new alliance deal was next Monday, Feb. 20. Just in time.
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(02-13-2012 04:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Man, am I glad we got invited to the BEast! Our deadline to ink the new alliance deal was next Monday, Feb. 20. Just in time.

I'm happy for you guys as well! That conference has fail written all over it! Welcome aboard!
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(02-13-2012 04:22 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Man, am I glad we got invited to the BEast! Our deadline to ink the new alliance deal was next Monday, Feb. 20. Just in time.

I'm happy for you guys as well! That conference has fail written all over it! Welcome aboard!

I think we're landing in a better situation, but I don't know that "The Alliance" or "Mount America" necessarily "has fail written all over it."

The larger conference...if it can hold...will be able to sustain hits in membership or an underperforming member (keep those mirrors away, damn you!) better than the two separate conference would. It will provide a measure of stability neither conference enjoys right now.
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This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.
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(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...
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(02-13-2012 05:53 PM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...

Concerning football, there's a lot smaller gap between the NBE and this new merged conference - in fan support and media appeal - than between the NBE and the SEC.

And it seems like they are copping our strategy of being the one "coast to coast" league. It may work, and it may hurt our ability to uniquely market ourselves that way to the media companies. I see this merged league as a threat.
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(02-13-2012 05:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:53 PM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...

There's a smaller gap between the NBE and this new merged conference - in both fan support metrics and on-field performance - than between the NBE and the SEC.

Okay, prove that statement.
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(02-13-2012 04:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:10 PM)billetingman1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 04:03 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  i think it's a great idea, there are at least 6 solid fb teams there, good for them.
Yeah, that too. McMurphy mentioned they might wind up with 18 to 24 teams. Right now they have 16 between the two leagues, so are they planning to add as many as 8 more? That would start to affect the other FBS conferences.

Guess realignment's not exactly done yet, lol.
It's 4,864 miles between ECU and Hawaii, further than it is between ECU and London, England. LOL! 05-stirthepot
They could always add a few miles to it (to put it mildly), and play the game in Hong Kong, to try to corner the Chinese market...

We are going to add the second SMU - Singapore Management University.

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(02-13-2012 05:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:53 PM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...

Concerning football, there's a lot smaller gap between the NBE and this new merged conference - in fan support and media appeal - than between the NBE and the SEC.

And it seems like they are copping our strategy of being the one "coast to coast" league. It may work, and it may hurt our ability to uniquely market ourselves that way to the media companies. I see this merged league as a threat.

There's a smaller gap between the NBE and this conference than between the NFL and the NBE as well, which seems just as relevant.

Mount USA will be a threat to our weeknight time slots, that's about it. Hopefully NBC/Comcast make that moot.


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That Merged conference has way less Media appeal.. Don't even try to compare the two and fan support??? Maybe ECU and AFA can compare but other then that who?
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(02-13-2012 06:25 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:53 PM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...

Concerning football, there's a lot smaller gap between the NBE and this new merged conference - in fan support and media appeal - than between the NBE and the SEC.

And it seems like they are copping our strategy of being the one "coast to coast" league. It may work, and it may hurt our ability to uniquely market ourselves that way to the media companies. I see this merged league as a threat.

There's a smaller gap between the NBE and this conference than between the NFL and the NBE as well, which seems just as relevant.

Except that the SEC is a fellow AQ league, and the NFL is not?
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(02-13-2012 05:58 PM)UHCougar Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:53 PM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-13-2012 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  This new merged conference is going to look an awful lot like the New Big East.

Not even close...

There's a smaller gap between the NBE and this new merged conference - in both fan support metrics and on-field performance - than between the NBE and the SEC.

Okay, prove that statement.

I don't think it, or the obverse, can be proven. But just look at the programs. Heck, half of our programs were in the MWC or C-USA just a few months ago. We're not talking about comparing the NBE with a conference with Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame, etc... the programs in both conferences are basically interchangeable.
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