(08-19-2010 07:08 PM)OrangeCrush Wrote:  

(08-19-2010 06:55 PM)PirateNation Wrote:  Temple - dont really know anything about them

They were kicked out of the Big East for misconduct.
They have a severe case of student apathy (huge school, but even when their hoops team is ranked they might only have 3,500 fans in a 10,000 fan arena, and let's not get started on football lack of support).
They usually bring about 13,000 fans to FB games, unless they are playing somebody with a good fan base in the area like Penn State, Villanova or now Rutgers.
Urban school, pretty good school for what their purpose is (educational opportunity for inner city kids). Nothing like Rice or Tulane academically, but better than most of the C-USA schools.

If their students and alumni cared at all about sports, they could be a good athletic school. Problem is, they don't have that in their culture. And the level of play is not a valid excuse, as their basketball team has had a lot of success and they were in a BCS conference for 10 years and still can't bring fans.

AMK, go back to Benchwarmers. And don't EVER compare Temple's football support to the support received by Villanova's pathetic program. There is no comparison. While we may have been kicked out of a BCS conference, YOUR school (Villanova) could not support FBS football period.

Temple averaged 17,000+ last season. It doesn't matter whether or not you include the Villanova game because it's already been established that almost no Nova fans attended the Mayor's Cup, much in the same way that almost no UCLA fans were present when Temple traveled 20,000+ deep to an away game on a Tuesday afternoon.

Temple averaged over 17,000 fans in its first year of even remote success. That's almost double what you're pathetic little program averaged. Almost no Villanova fans showed up for the Mayor's Cup game, because Villanova football does not have any fans.

Temple has averaged over 35,000 a game (WITHOUT Villanova) in a season in the past 25 years.

Temple brought 20,000 fans 3 hours to an away football game on a Tuesday afternoon. Villanova - a school that has HAD a D1A program in the past - has NEVER traveled even CLOSE to 20,000 fans to ANYTHING, EVER. Now that we have picture evidence of the UCLA fans, I would say it's very possible that there were actually MORE than 20,000 Temple fans at the game. Since you can see with your own eyes that there are hardly any UCLA fans. This turnout is similar to the turnout Villanova had at the Villanova-Temple game. It also mirrors the turnout that everyone expects Nova to have at this year's Mayor's Cup.

Temple brought 21,000 fans to a relatively meaningless game against a virtually unknown opponent (Kent State). Villanova had 4,000 fans show up to an on-campus football playoff game.

With a 4pm Tuesday start time - FAR from primetime - Temple delivered the highest ESPN bowl rating in the Philadelphia market since 2007. Higher than any other bowl game that was televised on ESPN in that time.

Villanova has had a D1A program in the past and what happened? It failed due to a lack of interest, support and competitiveness (sounds familiar, huh?) and they completely dropped football before deciding to restart the program as FCS. Villanova tried big time football once already... and it failed. That is a fact.