GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:you're right the goal of a pitcher is to win, but Ortiz has a 3.82 ERA.  no pitcher has ever won cy young with an ERA like that.  He's getting 6.40 runs per game, that's the only reason he's winning.

Ortiz pitched poorly again last night, and walked another 5 guys, while again only throwing 6 innings.  That doesn't seem like a cy young winner to me.

If you want to know why i put Ortiz on there, it's because, i copied the ESPN poll and then threw in Webb.

Okay. Thanks for explaining why you put Ortiz in.

I know people will look at Ortiz's line yesterday (4 runs in 6 six innings) and say he looked mediocre. But all four of those runs came in the first inning. He shutout the Phillies for 5 innings after that, allowing the Braves to come back and win. So Ortiz pitched 5 strong innings, but the only one anybody will pay any attention to is the one bad inning. I think one of the marks of a great pitcher is being able to fall behind, but regroup and allow his team to come back. Just my humble old opinion.

i understand that he did do well by keeping his team in the game, but you still can't take away the 4 runs, because they still count.

Also, through all of this, don't think that i dislike Ortiz, I think he's a very good pitcher.