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RE: sankey interview
(08-05-2022 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-05-2022 01:54 PM)Big 12 fan too Wrote:  
(08-05-2022 01:38 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  
(08-05-2022 11:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-05-2022 10:44 AM)OneSockUp Wrote:  If you were Oregon, why would you ever grant your rights to the Pac-12 in this climate?

If I was Oregon, Washington, Cal or Stanford I would not sign a TV deal longer than six years, nor a GOR or exit fee that extends beyond six years.

I was generally opposed to GoRs but also favored limits of conference sizes to 16 each maximum. My thinking has changed on that. Given that GoRs have become hand-in-hand with TV contracts, it is instrumental with negotiations.
Agree Quo, shorter-term GoRs may be the way to go.
The ACC’s GoR was defensively and punitively conceived and way, way too long in duration. At a minimum, their contract negotiations, while maintaining the base distribution, needed to have a window every 3 to 5 years, to discuss and pitch for revenue enhancements and other pertinent modifications sought.

The conferences would need leverage to get that. The ACC didn't have it.

The ACC GOR wasn't too long. It is what is saving the conference, or at least going to get schools accommodations. If the ACC GOR was up soon, it would have already crumbled. It was a win-win as far as the network and conference survival (delayed death) are concerned.

Particular schools may not like it, but the conference wisely sought security. The ACC was never going to compete with the coterminous P2s in revenue, so without GOR length, it was dead. It still could be, but at least schools will get some utility in it being killed off now.

The way I see it, "the conference" is just the schools that comprise it. So a conference surviving is not necessarily a good thing. It is imo bad if its continued existence is holding members back from doing better.

In 2016, we can assume all ACC schools thought the GOR was a good idea, because they all signed it.

Today, the ACC GOR is good for the low value schools with no place else of equal value to go. Bad for the schools that could go to the SEC or B1G.

So IMO if the question is, "is the ACC GOR too long?" The answer is yes for some schools, no for other schools.

That’s the basic essence of it all. FSU was opposed, and Maryland didn’t want it on their way out the door.
Swofford sold this to ACC members, that several now regret doing so.
Locked-in financial figures for a 20+ year or so period is a fiscal risk and such is not limited to inflationary costs. There’s no outlet to adjust in proportionality of what competitor conferences are negotiating and receiving during the contract duration.
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2022 09:05 AM by OdinFrigg.)
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sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 04:29 PM
RE: sankey interview - Attackcoog - 08-02-2022, 04:41 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-02-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 08:16 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-02-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 10:21 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-02-2022, 11:13 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-03-2022, 12:09 AM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-02-2022, 08:43 PM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-02-2022, 08:25 PM
RE: sankey interview - Frank the Tank - 08-02-2022, 09:47 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-03-2022, 07:36 AM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-03-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: sankey interview - AllTideUp - 08-02-2022, 05:02 PM
RE: sankey interview - Attackcoog - 08-02-2022, 06:24 PM
RE: sankey interview - GoBuckeyes1047 - 08-02-2022, 05:27 PM
RE: sankey interview - domer1978 - 08-02-2022, 06:05 PM
RE: sankey interview - No Bull - 08-02-2022, 07:23 PM
RE: sankey interview - GoBuckeyes1047 - 08-02-2022, 09:04 PM
RE: sankey interview - GoBuckeyes1047 - 08-02-2022, 09:07 PM
RE: sankey interview - Fresno St. Alum - 08-02-2022, 06:12 PM
RE: sankey interview - Frank the Tank - 08-02-2022, 06:28 PM
RE: sankey interview - SouthEastAlaska - 08-02-2022, 07:11 PM
RE: sankey interview - Frank the Tank - 08-02-2022, 07:25 PM
RE: sankey interview - SouthEastAlaska - 08-02-2022, 10:20 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-02-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-03-2022, 09:09 AM
RE: sankey interview - jacksfan29! - 08-04-2022, 01:57 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-04-2022, 02:02 PM
RE: sankey interview - jacksfan29! - 08-04-2022, 02:07 PM
RE: sankey interview - johnbragg - 08-04-2022, 05:24 PM
RE: sankey interview - Fresno St. Alum - 08-05-2022, 01:55 AM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-05-2022, 05:19 AM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-05-2022, 06:17 AM
RE: sankey interview - DavidSt - 08-04-2022, 02:38 PM
RE: sankey interview - Kyle Mack - 08-05-2022, 12:05 PM
RE: sankey interview - RUScarlets - 08-02-2022, 06:52 PM
RE: sankey interview - RUScarlets - 08-02-2022, 09:54 PM
RE: sankey interview - Frank the Tank - 08-02-2022, 10:24 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 10:34 PM
RE: sankey interview - Kit-Cat - 08-02-2022, 10:29 PM
RE: sankey interview - Kit-Cat - 08-02-2022, 10:38 PM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-02-2022, 10:42 PM
RE: sankey interview - ohio1317 - 08-03-2022, 12:02 AM
RE: sankey interview - TOPSTRAIGHT - 08-03-2022, 02:09 AM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-03-2022, 10:53 AM
RE: sankey interview - OneSockUp - 08-03-2022, 11:55 AM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-03-2022, 02:11 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-03-2022, 03:46 PM
RE: sankey interview - DavidSt - 08-03-2022, 03:51 PM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-04-2022, 12:37 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-04-2022, 12:52 PM
RE: sankey interview - b2b - 08-04-2022, 01:03 PM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-04-2022, 06:25 PM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-03-2022, 05:43 PM
RE: sankey interview - b2b - 08-04-2022, 12:46 PM
RE: sankey interview - SouthEastAlaska - 08-04-2022, 01:38 PM
RE: sankey interview - DavidSt - 08-03-2022, 07:00 AM
RE: sankey interview - PlayBall! - 08-04-2022, 01:43 PM
RE: sankey interview - OneSockUp - 08-05-2022, 10:44 AM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-05-2022, 11:50 AM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-05-2022, 01:38 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-05-2022, 01:54 PM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-05-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-05-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-06-2022, 08:06 AM
RE: sankey interview - bullet - 08-06-2022, 10:07 AM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-06-2022, 11:53 AM
RE: sankey interview - Gitanole - 08-09-2022, 08:10 PM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-06-2022 09:01 AM
RE: sankey interview - GarnetAndBlue - 08-06-2022, 04:23 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-06-2022, 05:37 PM
RE: sankey interview - GarnetAndBlue - 08-07-2022, 07:57 AM
RE: sankey interview - johnbragg - 08-07-2022, 08:09 AM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-07-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-07-2022, 08:48 AM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-07-2022, 10:46 AM
RE: sankey interview - quo vadis - 08-07-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-07-2022, 11:11 AM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-07-2022, 11:37 AM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-07-2022, 11:48 AM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-07-2022, 12:26 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-07-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-07-2022, 01:03 PM
RE: sankey interview - johnbragg - 08-07-2022, 01:10 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-07-2022, 02:01 PM
RE: sankey interview - johnbragg - 08-07-2022, 12:36 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-07-2022, 12:44 PM
RE: sankey interview - Gitanole - 08-09-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: sankey interview - Gitanole - 08-09-2022, 07:24 PM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-09-2022, 08:02 PM
RE: sankey interview - Gitanole - 08-09-2022, 08:12 PM
RE: sankey interview - goodknightfl - 08-05-2022, 11:59 AM
RE: sankey interview - Hootyhoo - 08-05-2022, 01:55 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-05-2022, 02:34 PM
RE: sankey interview - Hootyhoo - 08-05-2022, 03:44 PM
RE: sankey interview - Big 12 fan too - 08-05-2022, 04:10 PM
RE: sankey interview - OneSockUp - 08-05-2022, 03:00 PM
RE: sankey interview - gosports1 - 08-05-2022, 07:25 AM
RE: sankey interview - jrj84105 - 08-05-2022, 03:44 PM
RE: sankey interview - OdinFrigg - 08-06-2022, 02:42 PM
RE: sankey interview - Gamenole - 08-09-2022, 02:19 PM
RE: sankey interview - PeteTheChop - 08-09-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: sankey interview - JRsec - 08-09-2022, 02:54 PM
RE: sankey interview - AllTideUp - 08-09-2022, 06:39 PM
RE: sankey interview - IWokeUpLikeThis - 08-09-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: sankey interview - Gitanole - 08-09-2022, 07:29 PM
RE: sankey interview - AllTideUp - 08-09-2022, 08:34 PM
RE: sankey interview - DavidSt - 08-09-2022, 08:57 PM



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