(08-07-2022 03:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 08:16 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(08-06-2022 08:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-06-2022 05:59 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(08-06-2022 02:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  Nobody destroyed a conference like the ACC did except maybe the MWC going after the WAC. VT and Miami made sense, but the rest did not.

You are trying to justify it which is just absurdly hypocritical. We're just calling the ACC fans out on their nonsense.

The Big East is still around, silly bullet. Is the SWC?

The ACC was responsible for getting the Big East back to its roots. This much is true. But to ignore the fact that Miami, Syracuse, Pitt, and BC had wondering eyes for the ACC since the early 90’s is just plain deceptive. Or ignorant. Virginia Tech even longer.

I wish we grabbed VT and Miami and stopped. But the other conferences wouldn’t give us our CCG.

Big East football is gone. AAC doesn't include any Big East 1.0 schools and only USF from Big East 2.0.

Just so we’re on the same page, the 20 year run of the Big East football conference, which at its inception only included half of its membership as full members and the other half as second tier mercenaries, had more historical significance than the 80 year run of the SWC?

If the ACC wanted to kill the Big East they would have invited Georgetown and Villanova. The Big East still exists in its original organization and guess what, it’s better off!


The reason the ACC is the expansion bully is due to the fact message boards became popular right around the time its expansion occurred. If message boards blew up five, or ten years earlier, the internet would be more level headed in their opinions.

The SWC was fatally wounded by the Cowboys and Oilers. That lead to the demise of SMU, TCU and Rice, which dramatically weakened the SWC. OU/UGA's lawsuit just hastened the end. It wasn't a Big 8 raid. It was driven by UT and OU who knew both conferences were doomed as they then existed. The Big 8 had no population and the SWC had half the schools with no fans.

…and the Big East football league was a hodgepodge of schools that were considered second class by the basketball core. There were obvious cracks in the foundation from the beginning. It was built to hold onto Syracuse and Pitt, knowing they both would have been happy as football members in the ACC, which was actually seriously discussed in 1990. The leaders knew if that happened eventually they would want to move over for all sports. It was bound to happen, and my school was against it the whole time.