(07-02-2022 11:04 AM)Big 12 fan too Wrote:  

(07-02-2022 10:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  The best move for the Big 12 and Pac 12 schools is to wait and year and see what Notre Dame and the Big 10 do.

Making a decision now without knowing that could lead to some suboptimal moves.

Well of course. Some moves are already off the table because of the uncertainty. No GOR is happening. There is certainly no interest by Big 12 schools to go to the P12 right now, or in the future. Or the past year, for obvious reasons to even the most delusional now.

The other direction? Schools like Cal, Stanford, UW etc may benefit from waiting.

But there is risk for some P12 schools to agree to wait on the behalf of schools that just applied to the Big 10.

Where’s the upside in that? Zero. Best case scenario they wait and are left in some short GOR in a conference that was already a weak P5 WITH USC/UCLA, getting passed in performance by AAC/MWC, with schools that will again try to leave (in reality they’ll never stop trying to leave).

Meanwhile if SEC and ESPN make similar huge moves with the ACC, that could easily remove options from P12 schools that do not end up with a Big 10 invite.

The Pac12 is dead. The only way it would have a chance to survive is for UW and Oregon etc to sign a very long GOR, which they obviously won’t do regardless of whatever answer they get over the next year. And even then, they’d likely be forced to sit at 10 or add MWC

For example, if the Big 10 stays put or takes only Notre Dame and Stanford (or UW or OR), the Pac's best move might be to try a mini-merger with the Big 12, leaving the 3 eastern schools behind. That would be better for the mountain schools than jumping early to the Big 12. So a west of UW, WSU, UO, OSUw, Cal, UU, CU, ASU, UA and an east of BYU, TT, TCU, UH, BU, OSUc, KU, KSU, ISU.