(06-21-2022 04:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 02:39 PM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 11:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 11:18 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  

(06-21-2022 10:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Again, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you, but the reality is that it isn't happening. The ROI in terms of donations, connecting alumni with the campus, the gameday experience is hugely affected by not being on campus. The alternative, was not spending any money, still not being on campus, and having a rotting LB with horrible amenities.

Having 50,000 seats won't help to create demand in any appreciable way, but the addition of luxury boxes that aren't a mile away from the field, improving the concessions, providing a cozy atmosphere for games will dramatically improve the gameday experience.

I also hope/think that when the dust settles, we have no more than 46,000 - 48,000 seats. At that level we are starting to get close to the optimal size.

It's hard to believe that anyone within the schools administration thought LBMS improvements are more beneficial long-term than building an OCS. The OP was about student involvement, and I don't think there's much the school can do to reach out to the casual student-fan on a weekly basis that would have as much impact as an OCS. Even gimmicky giveaways lose their appeal quickly. Winning definitely helps with student involvement, but there's no way to guarantee that year over year.

Quote:It's hard to believe that anyone within the schools administration thought LBMS improvements are more beneficial long-term than building an OCS.

I am sure that nobody thought that. This is no different than not doing anything for a long time and allowing infrastructure to crumble, and then when you have to do something, it costs 10X more.

IMO, the issue is that it took 20 years to raise what turned out to be $20 million for an IPF, that could probably have been built for $5 million 15 years ago. Raising ticket prices (we are seeing it in this thread) causes many of our fans to freak out.

It isn't that our fanbase is cheap. Our endowment is less than $300 million. There is a disconnect between the admin and alumni. The same as crumbling infrastructure, at crucial times we had garbage presidents and AD's. IF we had leadership like Rudd/Bowen at any time from 1990-2020, we would be in a much different position today.

Having an OCS is a great idea, the only really great idea there is, but we can't pay for it.

getting people back on campus should be a sure-fire way to increase alumni contributions. The IPF is different in that alumni really don't get any benefit from it other than bragging rights, whereas an OCS is something they can directly benefit from as they would be back on campus attending games there.

We all know that. How do you come up with the $300 million?

in the same fashion they're able to contribute $200 million to a city owned facility. Look, I understand the likelihood of an OCS if extremely slim, but if you're really wanting student/fan/alumni involvement to increase, the plans of an OC should do that. I fell like the renovation images to LBMS look amazing, but the hype seemingly fell short.