(04-18-2022 11:46 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

And Cincy has about $1.7B of endowment. Temple is a fine school but honestly is there any reason to pick Temple over Cincy?

The only one I can think of would be a preference for Philadelphia vs. Cincinnati. That shouldn't be enough to put Temple over Cincy in this though.