(03-31-2022 03:47 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(03-31-2022 12:26 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(03-31-2022 03:55 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(03-14-2022 06:00 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Shifting gears - did the College of Pharmacy receive additional state funding to help offset the unfair tuition costs?

https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/news/ed...8d806.html

No. I thought that was the case (that they had not) when you posed the question, but now here's definite proof:

Pharmacy enrollment and budget declining

Thanks for the update. This is reminiscent of the Medical School establishment —- “Contacted by phone after the meeting, State Rep. David Hawk (R-Greeneville) said his colleague Gary Hicks of Hawkins County, chair of the House Budget Subcommittee, had introduced a budget amendment that would provide state funds to bridge the gap between tuition at Memphis and that at ETSU.”

Has this been in previous budgets only to be voted down? What sort of clout does Gary Hicks have, any favors to call in?

Or, is this decline in enrollment to do with market conditions? Is there an oversupply of pharmacists — specifically in the region?

A little dated, but relevant:
https://www.ajpe.org/content/84/10/ajpe8136

That abstract really tells the story really, really well. I strongly urge any who are interested and/or concerned about this to read it. I think (the collective) we knew when the school opened, and even before then, that there would eventually (soon?) be an oversupply of Pharm. D.s. "We" thought we'd be ahead of the curve, and we sorta were - barely. VERY IMPORTANTLY..............remember that this school wouldn't be here except that it was proposed, promoted, and designed to be self-financing. Most of the state west of Greeneville is of the opinion, *and rightly so* (based on how this school came to be), that 'they' shouldn't have to provide ETSU any money for it. *I'm* not saying that; that's just the opinion of those from "down thataway". "What?! *Now* you want some money for it? We thought it was going to be self-supporting?"
[To me, that viewpoint is myopic and akin to biting one's nose to spite one's face. I mean, really.................how 'fair' is it to have ETSU's pharmacy school at such a disadvantage? It's not, of course, but I certainly understand the reluctance to provide funds now. "Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile."]

How will this play out?? Unknown. The fact that we're now in a growing demographic (higher average age here than in some areas of the state), the fact that it's associated with a medical school, the fact that this region is growing recently from an influx of retirees, etc., AND the likelihood that market forces will stabilize within the next 5-10 years make it likely this school will continue to exist. But that is far from a certainty. Incrementally downsizing seems smart. Just my opinion personally.........but I thought the last class size increase wasn't needed or warranted. Only the way I read the tea leaves.

Interesting read - thanks. This could help explain the overall situation also:

There were about 80 schools of pharmacy in the United States in 2000, now there are 141 accredited schools. . Existing Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) programs also contributed significantly to the expansion as the average class size increased almost 30% between 2000 and 2012.