(09-15-2021 05:43 AM)ken d Wrote:  There are no P5 teams. Only P5 conferences. So the only question is whether you accept the Big 12 as a P5 conference or not. If you do, then these schools are every bit as much of a P5 as Kansas, Wake Forest, Rutgers and other schools that populate the lower end of the power conferences. If you don't, then you would have to say that football powerhouses like Oklahoma State, Kansas State and TCU are no longer P5 schools as well.

My view is along those lines. As long as TX and OU are still in the Big 12, which they are, it is still a P5 conference. Once they actually join the SEC, it no longer is.

As the new schools are not yet in the Big 12, they are IMO still G5 schools, as they are still members of G5 conferences.

So as of now, schools like TCU and OK State are still P5 schools, UCF and BYU are not.