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RE: Cheating in CFB
(06-14-2021 06:16 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-11-2021 06:36 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 12:49 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 12:37 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Here is the quote from WaPo:

"Most state bills have passed with bipartisan support, with states jockeying to pass expansive rules that will allow them to more easily recruit athletes. But on a federal level, the proposition of bipartisan legislation is far trickier. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...l-hearing/

If i was a state with a football program that was underachieving like Nebraska, or Michigan, or California - i would pass a law that makes it easier for players to make money to give my colleges a recruiting edge.

First, Dan let me acknowledge that while I don't always agree with your posts, I respect your passion and intellect. When you pointed out that I would certainly root for all of our incoming transfers, despite my reservations of the new transfer rule relaxation you were spot on! Case in point, would be Mike Glass, Sergio Bailey, Kobey Beltram and others who while were JUCO's, were not the four year players that I aspire to have on our roster. Isaac Steibling was the backup QB to Roback in Brogan's senior year and while a great kid, he clearly was not a D1 football player and I was delighted that we had not only Glass but Iowa transfer Wiegers available for the next season.

That said, your proposition of passing state laws to make it easier to pay NCAA athletes indicates that you have been debating with "Bob Weaselsham" far too long. You will indeed "lose your edge" when you engage bloviating idiots.

Compensating athletes is not the business of taxpayer supported institutions, especially those whose defined mission is to educate and train young adults for future careers. The paying of wages for athletic services performed is best done by the private sector and in the case that would be the NBA, NHL, MLB and of course the incredibly well managed NFL. These are organizations that consist of teams owned by PRIVATE individuals who collectively bargain with their employees and establish relationships with their fellow business partners to maintain and grow their business.

The NCAA simply is not capable of doing the same. Mark Emmert, Miles Brand and such who have led the NCAA have spent their life running college institutions, Roger Goodell, Jerry Jones, Mark Cuban, George Steinbrenner they are not.

Hey JW. Thank you for the kind words. I may have been inarticulate with my point regarding states' involvement in this issue. I'm not saying (at this point) that states should be stepping in to pay players BUT states are already drafting and passing laws setting up a regulatory frame work for players to cash in on NIL rights.

See this article (from early 2020(:
https://www.axios.com/student-athlete-co...75483.html

Even Michigan was able to find bi-partisan support for these sorts of bills:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/m...928648001/

As for your point that teams are owned by individuals whereas colleges are public employers and thus less apt to recognize organized labor - that argument may not hold as much water as you think. My wife is a teacher - a public employee for a municipality in the state of Michigan and she's union. Cops are union. Firefighters are union. The fact that there inst a private owner of the management structure doesn't free colleges from being the target of collective bargaining. Shoot i was involved in some union drives at EMU about a decade ago for adjuncts. Most of the University employees are union already.

When I worked in the Development Office at EMU during the mid-90's, we were part of the UAW. Only time in 30+ years working in the development field that I was part of a union.
06-14-2021 07:01 AM
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Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-24-2021, 01:33 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-24-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Jerry Weaver - 05-24-2021, 05:30 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-24-2021, 05:51 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-25-2021, 05:57 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - EagleSam - 05-25-2021, 06:11 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-25-2021, 09:30 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-25-2021, 09:56 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-25-2021, 10:17 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-25-2021, 12:02 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-25-2021, 12:20 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-25-2021, 02:37 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-25-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - eastcoasteagle - 05-25-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-28-2021, 06:17 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-28-2021, 06:26 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-28-2021, 06:32 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-28-2021, 06:34 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-28-2021, 07:01 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-28-2021, 07:15 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - holybovine - 06-04-2021, 02:09 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - cidbearit - 06-04-2021, 03:07 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-04-2021, 03:27 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - cidbearit - 06-04-2021, 03:33 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - holybovine - 06-04-2021, 11:37 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - holybovine - 06-04-2021, 11:44 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - steve4840 - 06-08-2021, 10:57 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-25-2021, 06:42 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-25-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-25-2021, 08:05 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - masttg - 05-25-2021, 08:26 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - fanfrompowellspub - 05-25-2021, 10:08 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Jerry Weaver - 05-25-2021, 06:21 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-26-2021, 06:42 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Jerry Weaver - 05-26-2021, 05:12 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-27-2021, 06:14 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-27-2021, 06:49 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-25-2021, 07:17 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-26-2021, 06:49 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-26-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-26-2021, 08:49 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-26-2021, 09:04 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - cidbearit - 05-26-2021, 10:34 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-26-2021, 10:53 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-26-2021, 11:16 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-28-2021, 06:07 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-28-2021, 06:20 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-28-2021, 07:39 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-28-2021, 07:47 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 05-28-2021, 09:09 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 05-28-2021, 04:25 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Jerry Weaver - 05-28-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 05-31-2021, 08:11 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Boca Rocket - 06-02-2021, 03:11 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 06-03-2021, 07:15 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - cidbearit - 06-03-2021, 08:02 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Bob Wickersham - 06-03-2021, 08:14 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-10-2021, 09:30 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-10-2021, 09:48 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-10-2021, 10:23 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-10-2021, 10:26 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-10-2021, 10:58 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-10-2021, 12:37 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-10-2021, 12:49 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Jerry Weaver - 06-11-2021, 06:36 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 06:16 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - cidbearit - 06-14-2021 07:01 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 07:25 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-14-2021, 08:33 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 09:00 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-14-2021, 10:51 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - emu steve - 06-14-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - SMUstang - 06-14-2021, 11:04 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - Boca Rocket - 06-14-2021, 11:36 AM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 12:04 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - SMUstang - 06-14-2021, 02:20 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 02:25 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - SMUstang - 06-14-2021, 02:36 PM
RE: Cheating in CFB - dansplaining - 06-14-2021, 03:21 PM



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