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RE: AAC and Academics
(04-28-2021 03:04 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(04-28-2021 08:57 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-28-2021 08:30 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(04-28-2021 07:52 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Presidents decide what happens to their university and who is associated with it. That means you can knock Liberty and Boise off for different reason, but the same outcome. The president's do not want associated with either. For good reasons.

What has changed since the last time they invited Boise State, while operating under their former name?

Exactly. The AAC would absolutely take Boise—-but Boise is an exception where the brand value and on the field performance of the Broncos overcomes any perceived academic shortcomings.

The difference is that when Boise was invited the Catholic 7 were still involved, Boise was football only, and the other schools like Tulane and Navy were holding their collective nose as well as being relative new comers with out a great deal of influence.

The catholic seven left, Tulsa who had been considered as a possible football only school entered as a full member. Boise got a prima Donna BYU attitude with out the history, reach, or support and everyone became an established member because there were only three members left over and while they were and are (minus UConn) in a position to lead they aren't in a position to dictate. The relationships (i.e. votes) are quite a different dynamic hell half the schools who approved Boise aren't and haven't been members of this conference some of them ever.

Hence why when things were falling apart and the Boise shenanigans began a full membership was considered to keep SDSU, as well as football only and the Big West. Those options proved unworkable and even now any western expansion talk from the AAC even with BYU is strictly football only while Boise wants all in.

SMU, Tulsa, Tulane and Navy are a considerable voting block who will be saddled with the Boise add and prefer to compete with each other because of a more equal playing field. This is why Air Force is a much more likely add. There are seven other votes, Temple is academically sensitive at the moment so we will say neutral. USF and UCF are quite a run away as is ECU but I could see all three voting yes. Cincinnati, Memphis, and Houston would likely be yeses. I assume the approval requires 3/4 and would be announced as a unanimous vote. However I could see any president (say a sensitive Temple?) siding with four teams who will be holding high academic standards while playing a diploma mill that make Houston and UCF look Ivy. No offense to either school who have raised their level of academic poweress especially as a state school but Tulane and maybe SMU belong in the same breath as Harvard. I don't see the votes. Say what you want about BYU and their honor code, academically they are pretty solid. They are better supported and have a better program than Boise. Army and Air Force easily pass muster. Everyone else has issues and that includes Boise. SDSU is too far, most the others don't clear the athletic bar, or Liberty who has the crap academics and the "honor code" issue.

This is also why I think CSU is only a tag along option to someone, they will only be taken if they are the most convient their academics aren't outstanding, their athletics aren't outstanding, they are essentially all foundation and potential.

The question at hand is---"Does Boise academics pose an insurmountable issue as far as AAC membership?" I dont think so.

The emails from 2020 show us Boise was interested in joining the AAC as "football only" and that the AAC was interested in having Boise as a "football only". The emails also indicate that Boise could not find a place for their olympic sports and the possibility of a "all sports" Boise invite was a "No" for the AAC. So--its clear that academics wasnt an issue for the AAC. The conference was fine with grabbing Boise as a football only member. What we can discern from the emails is its apparent Boise's bleeds off enough support to cost them an invite if the Bronco's are considered as an "all sports" candidate. So---I dont think its about academics---its about the cost of flying volleyball, softball, soccer, etc thousands of miles to Boise every year....which is not an unreasonable position to hold.
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