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(09-16-2020 09:26 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 08:17 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  What I would hope, in a world where everyday people want to discourage cheating of that magnitude, would be that their program would go through a decade without top notch recruiting. Truthfully, since they violated recruiting rules for a decade, I think that justice would have been served the NCAA should have put some sort of limits on their recruiting for another decade.

You seem to feel pretty strongly about UConn. What say you about being in a conference with SMU, the continued leader in NCAA All-Time in infractions? Or Memphis, a top-10 program in infractions? Both have those programs have had seasons eliminated, postseason bans, probation periods that have occurred across several decades.

What would have the AAC have received in TV money without UConn? Without UConn the (then) AAC was literally no different than C-USA with Temple. The $1.7 million received would have been like a pot of gold had they not been in that grouping. And, without UConn, the AAC doesn't get to say it has a $1 billion TV deal.

AAC fans holding a grudge against UConn is nothing more than sour grapes. The AAC programs increased their brand values and associations thanks to a relationship with UConn. Similarly, UConn used the war chest exit fess to temporarily sustain pre-AAC spending and costs as a power conference program. Both benefited from the other in the near and long run.

The point that was raised about Ohio State, Penn State, and UConn not receiving anything approaching sufficiently proportional sanctions to dissuade future violations would apply, equally to any of the other schools that have violated the NCAA rules and have gotten away with little more than a mild slap or "tap" on the wrist.

Indeed, their administrators might well have walked away from such absurdly mild sanctions, humming the tune "It hurts so good."


Data printed below illustrate that NCAA violations have been so rampant among the P5 universities that the sanctions applied with the intention of reducing the amount of violations in the future have been totally ineffective. At this point, the NCAA has been completely feckless in trying to rein in the recurrent violations by the P5 universities.

By wantonly flouting the NCAA rules, the P5 universities have made it clear that they are not only richer and more powerful, but that they are also shameless and indifferent about being caught, repeateadly for tolerating severe violations of rules developed to promote good sportsmanship and a level playing field for all teams.



Despite having all of the remarkable privileges that their A5 (autonomy) status provides, the P5 schools have been several times more likely than the non-P5 schools to commit verifiable NCAA rules violation in the past decade (see data below).

Although a much smaller percentage of non-P5 schools have committed such violations since 2000, perhaps the time has come to label the P5 as not only being the "autonomous" (A5) and the "powers" (P5), but also as the "cheaters" (C5).


According to a 2016 report published at insidehighered.com:

"More than half the members of the Power Five conferences committed major violations of National Collegiate Athletic Association rules in the last decade, an Inside Higher Ed analysis shows."

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016...ast-decade


Moreover, the data in the article indicate that more than 3/4 of the P5 schools were sanctioned for major NCAA rules violations between 2000 and 2016:

"Inside Higher Ed reviews of NCAA data found that 54 institutions in the FBS (or Division I-A, as it used to be called) were guilty of major violations in the 2000s..."

In percentage terms, 83% of the P5 schools were sanctioned/punished for major violations by the NCAA between 2000 and 2016.


Interestingly, only 19% of the non-P5 D1 Colleges and Universities were sanctioned by the NCAA between 2006 and 2016, according to data reported in the article.[/b]

The article reports that all 14 (100%) Big 10 schools and 8 (80%) of the Big 12 schools - - including Oklahoma and Ohio State (each sanctioned for three different sets or types of major violations) - - were found to have committed the most NCAA violations between 2006 and 2016.

Number of P5 schools punished by the NCAA by conference since 2006:

Big 10: 14 schools (100%; documented in NCAA database)
Big 12: 8 schools (80%; documented in NCAA database)
PAC 12: 6 schools (50%; documented in NCAA database)
SEC: 7 schools (50%; documented in NCAA database)
ACC: 7 schools (The conference total from 2006 to 2016 is not specified in the article, but ACC schools that been sanctioned since 2000 have included: FSU, GT, Louisville, Miami, Pitt, Syracuse, and UNC).

The sum total is 48 P5 schools, indicates that 73.8% of the P5 universities have been sanctioned/punished by the NCAA for violations by the NCAA since 2006.

The ratio of sanctioned P5 schools to sanctioned non-P5 D1 schools between 2006 and 2016 (including reports that there were 7 sanctioned AAC schools) is:

P5 schools: 83%

Non-P5 D1 schools: 19%

83%/19% = 4.37

Summary:

The percentage of P5 schools that were sanctioned for major NCAA rules violations was four times greater than the corresponding percentage of non-P5 D1 schools.
(This post was last modified: 09-17-2020 05:01 AM by jedclampett.)
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