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RE: Budding WAC rivalries...
(04-15-2020 09:59 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(04-14-2020 04:32 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 04:46 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 09:16 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(04-10-2020 11:32 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Yes, UTRGV has been a rousing success in D1. I feel so foolish now... 07-coffee3

Lol point taken. Just wanted to express that the resources are there to go "all-in" on D1 athletic pursuits, if they are so inclined. So far, the A&M system seems more commited to that endeavor than UT. The rise of a strong Kingsville/CC D1 athletic program (including Football) would be very appealing to the top A&M brass, as they see D1 athletics as the best way to market an institution. Tarleton is benefiting from this now, and our new Prez seems to know how to get that money flowing in the right direction.

But back to the point: UTRGV and a newly formed A&M CC/Kingsville makes much more sense for a rivalry than UTRGV-Tarleton. I predict Tarleton will storm into the WAC guns 'a blazin', particuarly in MBB, and will try to make a rival out of the alpha dog in the room, NMST. The only way to do that is hire a big-name coach that knows how to recruit, and go win some games. So far I think we're on the right track. Tarleton is a deep-rooted Basketball school, I'm confident they will find a way to win.

I’m just having a little fun with the new Tarleton posters. I’m really glad you guys are here. I love the BCG hire. I love calling him BCG. I hope you guys do come out guns ‘a blazin’. But others have tried to hire a big name coach with name recognition and oodles of cash to try and topple NMSU (its NMSU, not NMST) and that hasn’t gone very well. I also think you are behind Dixie State coming out of the gate. Should be a fun ride.
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If we're behind them it's not by much. Talent I'd say even but Tarleton was inexperienced and playing in a tougher conference. We'll surpass them within 2 years at most.

Hmmm...In the 32 years under Lonn Reisman (and son), Tarleton won 693 games. Thats's roughly 22 wins/season. That"s also including the last 2 years the son took over and quickly realized he was in over his head. He won, but he didn't win enough. So after 2 years of mediocrity, he was "promoted" into admininstration, out of respect for Lonn. The real reason he was let go and Tarleton hired BCG is there is an expectation of winning basketball games at Tarleton. Whatever level or conference they play in, that expectation will not change. Not sure if Dixie State has earned that same expectation. Their program may have found some success as of late, but their most successful season in D2 would have been considered a decent/down year for Tarleton.

NCAA Tournament Final Four
Division II: 2005, 2015
NCAA Tournament Elite Eight
Division II: 2005, 2006, 2015, 2016
NCAA Tournament Sweet Sixteen
Division II: 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2015, 2016
NCAA Tournament Round of 32
Division II: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016
NCAA Tournament Appearances
Division II: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Conference Tournament Champions
Lone Star: 2004, 2013, 2014

So you are basically referencing a coach's success (at the DII level) who no longer coaches for you. As others have wisely pointed out, recent success means a lot more.

You are in DI now. And you have an 800lb gorilla to deal with in NMSU.

I like that we have Tarleton posters. I like that you all are passionate about basketball. I like that Tarleton has had some success in basketball. And I love the hire of Billy Clyde Gillespie. All positive stuff. Keep the posts coming.

The positive is Tarleton State is used to winning (Texan fans included). There is passion in Stephenville, TX. However, there is a big difference between winning in D2 and winning at the D1 level. Cal State Bakersfield also had a very impressive D2 basketball history. But outside of one blip in 2016, it has been a tough road for the Runners at the D1 level; in part because of the 800lb gorilla you've mentioned. NMSU has established itself as the kingpin in the WAC. And, all roads leading to the NCAA Tournament pass through Las Cruces, NM; the Aggies winning 8 of the last 10 WAC tournaments. NMSU's level of play sets the bar for all other WAC schools; if they want to go to post season. And, although NMSU is no Gonzaga, its has a choke hold on the WAC Championship much in the same way that Gonzaga dominates the WCC.
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RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - DoubleRSU - 04-02-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - DoubleRSU - 04-02-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - DoubleRSU - 04-04-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - DoubleRSU - 04-02-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Lopes87 - 04-04-2020, 01:14 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - chrisattsu - 04-04-2020, 02:24 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-08-2020, 07:10 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - edinburger - 04-08-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-08-2020, 11:58 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - chrisattsu - 04-09-2020, 08:08 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - edinburger - 04-10-2020, 08:45 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-11-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Trod0 - 04-14-2020, 05:06 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - NMSUPistolPete - 04-15-2020 11:05 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 01:02 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 02:12 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Trod0 - 04-15-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 02:30 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 04:14 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - RobtheAggie - 04-15-2020, 02:30 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 04:15 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-15-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - chrisattsu - 04-11-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Trod0 - 04-12-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-12-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Vulpes88 - 04-14-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - gleadley - 04-14-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Trod0 - 04-14-2020, 05:41 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - gleadley - 04-14-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - Trod0 - 04-14-2020, 06:57 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - gleadley - 04-15-2020, 09:52 PM
RE: Budding WAC rivalries... - gleadley - 04-16-2020, 01:09 PM
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