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RE: US News: UC clocks in at #139
(09-14-2019 07:39 AM)ucbandguy Wrote: (09-14-2019 07:04 AM)crex043 Wrote: (09-13-2019 10:35 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (09-12-2019 04:02 PM)UCbball21 Wrote: Does anyone have any insights on the current long-term plan for enrollment? How many students is the main campus planning on supporting?
This is an issue, and a bigger one that many might think.
Two years ago, I tried to rank universities by density. Students per acre. I didn't check every school & I only looked at main campuses, but this is the list I came up with:
universities ranked by students/acre
642 - Depaul ( 36 acres, 23110 students )
565 - Portland State ( 50 acres, 28,241 students )
344 - Temple ( 115 acres, 39,515 students )
324 - Cincinnati ( 137 acres, 44,338 students )
267 - UW-Milwaukee ( 104 acres, 27,813 students )
218 - NYU ( 230 acres, 50,027 students )
217 - Pitt ( 132 acres, 28,617 students )
217 - Cal State San Francisco ( 134 acres, 29,045 students )
209 - San Jose State ( 154 acres, 32,154 students )
207 - Cleveland State ( 85 acres, 17,620 students )
170 - Cal State Fullerton ( 236 acres, 40,235 students )
159 - Cal State Los Angeles ( 175 acres, 27,827 students )
138 - USC (Southern California) ( 308 acres, 42,469 students )
134 - Wayne State ( 203 acres, 27,298 students )
129 - Marquette ( 93 acres, 12,002 students )
127 - Boise State ( 175 acres, 22,259 students )
123 - San Diego State ( 283 acres, 34,688 students )
122 - Tulane ( 110 acres, 13,449 students )
119 - Illinois-Chicago ( 244 acres, 29,048 students )
114 - Cal State Long Beach ( 330 acres, 37,776 students )
113 - Arizona ( 380 acres, 43,088 students )
113 - Cal State Northridge ( 353 acres, 39,916 students )
107 - UCLA ( 419 acres, 44,947 students )
104 - Georgia State ( 518 acres, 54,000 students )
104 - Akron ( 218 acres, 22,619 students )
103 - UM-KC ( 157 acres, 16,160 students )
102 - Nevada ( 209 acres, 21,353 students )
102 - Sacramento ( 300 acres, 30,510 students )
100 - Harvard ( 210 acres, 21,000 students )
Obviously research intensive schools have a higher employee-to-student ratio. For example, Harvard & Akron have similar # of students but Harvard has to find offices & labs for 16,000 employees compared to Akron's 3,500 (and about 40% of Akron's are part time).
Is there a stat for students to classrooms or students to overall building capacity? UC is dense, but the concentration of buildings are also dense. I've never felt like a sardine on campus.
When I go back and walk around campus, it feels less dense to me than when I graduated in 72. Two buildings disappeared from between McMicken and Tangeman, and I don't think the "Old Tech" building was mourned. The green space is much nicer. Newer buildings have gone to the periphery (Business, library, medical campus, etc. )
The perception that UC is in the middle of a ghetto is old, and has been perpetuated by some news media. Incidents in the area are blown up with headlines about being near UC.
Back in 72, I would have been nervous walking from the main campus to the medical center area at night. It is simply very, very different today.
Sorry... Should have clarified on my statement. I agree with you - it does not feel dense. While the building concentration is higher than other universities I've been to (namely Kent State), I've never felt packed in or ran into a traffic jam of students outside of a building and parking has never been an issue during the week.
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