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RE: Pathways to a P5 invitation (long post - be forewarned...)
(06-28-2019 04:50 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 04:38 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 04:06 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  A P5 invitation to a G5 member is not impossible, but very, very unlikely unless there are shifts within the P5 (creating a P4). Assuming Texas/Oklahoma hold the cards on whether another realignment cycle begins, it's quite possible the P5 membership remains in tact through the next decade. The Big 12 is still being paid handsomely on the power level, and there has been nothing (yet) to indicate that Texas/Oklahoma would want to become a secondary decision maker in a new conference. While the PAC has had its noticeable share of bad PR stories with regards to organization, it is still unlikely that any of them try and move given the academic and historical associations that many of them share. The ACC has a GOR, which discourages any departures there. It would be a huge shock if any member willingly decided to leave either the B1G or SEC. Notre Dame is also very pleased with their arrangement, so they aren't looking to start making waves now.

Within the G5, there are also only a select number of programs that will likely be considered for a potential move-up, and they include BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF. Everyone else outside of that exclusive group is likely to be on the outside looking in.

A P5 to P4 transition would make it even harder for a move-up. In fact I believe it would be a contraction. Schools like Baylor or Iowa State could would be on the outside looking in.

FTFY

I think you're both right. GoldenWarrior11 said (which reflects my own thoughts) that it's EXTREMELY unlikely that any P5 conference adds anybody from outside. And I agree with you - any significant raiding would likely lead to a situation where some schools are no longer in what would now be viewed as a P4. In that event, those schools would likely raid the current G5 conferences (likely the AAC and/or the MWC depending on who those schools are) to create the remnants of that remaining conference. In other words, the road map that led to the creation of the AAC. That new conference would be P5 in name only until such time that the CFP changes again.

In other words, it's impossible to envision a situation where a non-P5 team gets elevated to the top tier. Louisville, Rutgers and WVU got the last raft off of the Titanic.

USFFan


The problem is already costing schools in the P5 a lot of money as is when you have schools in the P5 that are not even close to each other. No matter how much money that sports media networks give them, it may not be enough, and they have to allow G5 schools in to help ease the cost of travel. Boston College is really hurting as is when their fan base for football games are just like UConn's.
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