(05-28-2019 10:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 10:02 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 09:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 09:18 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 04:15 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Florida State got absolutely nothing for signing the GOR. What a giant f up by the inept leadership. Then Barron bolts right after .. he shouldn't have been able to sign anything !!!

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Where you gonna go? B12? UF gonna blackball you. Pathetic SEC wannabe.

The blackball is an internet myth. It never existed. Quite the contrary! Slive asked for a gentlemen's agreement not to nominate your in state rival until the 2 new markets that were requirements in the contract's renegotiation clause were met.

At the time both Florida and South Carolina were willing to endorse their in state rivals. Why? They were scared that if the conferences continued to grow that they would be unable to easily schedule them. Since both schools build their donation priority around the FSU/Clemson tickets they wanted them in the conference, just as Florida wanted in '92 when the Gator's did sponsor the Noles for SEC membership.

The blackball thing is a purely histrionic misinterpretation of what happened in the meeting of the presidents that was perpetrated by by then blogger Clay Travis who was trying to gain attention (and he did).

Georgia was even willing to sponsor Tech should the ACC have blown up following Maryland's departure. Kentucky was the only SEC school at that time that was said to not be willing to sponsor their in state rival. I have no doubt but what the Aggies feel that way today, but they weren't members in 2011.

I don't know how many times I've had to explain this but once the misinformation was out on the internet no amount of explanation could stop the proliferation of ignorance on this matter.

I believe you.

Still, FSU to SEC is unlikely. It's unclear whether FSU would deliver enough revenue for the SEC, which is already very popular in Florida. FSU agreed to extend the GOR in 2016, implying 1) it knows it's not going to receive an invitation from the SEC and/or 2) the ACCN would be sufficiently successful.

I think this is mostly true. What I would add is that even if F.S.U. would add to the SEC's bottom line the other impediment, and it's a big one, is that ESPN doesn't want to devalue its investment in the ACC by having F.S.U. (or Clemson) leave, which is probably why the renegotiation clause of the SEC's 2011 contract required two new markets. I know that since they control the valuations of incoming members to the SEC that ESPN has a control over the SEC via the valuation. In other words if they aren't willing to pay us more for F.S.U. then we aren't likely to ask them. It's that control over the SEC by ESPN that keeps F.S.U. from counting on an invitation, even if they desired to leave which is certainly in doubt.

Everyone wants to think that one conference raids another. But most of the time it was one Network either raiding another, or seeking fuller control over a school in which they only had a partial stake in rights. FOX stole Maryland. They wanted to have a greater presence in the South and destabilizing the ACC might have made that more of a possibility. Missouri was a market grab by ESPN and a defensive move. A&M to the SEC and the LHN were ESPN moves for greater control in the state of Texas where they had shared those properties 50/50 with FOX in the original Big 12 rights deal. FOX wanted Nebraska's national appeal. The stripping of the Old Big East was because of friction in rights negotiations between ESPN and the OBE and an earlier dispute between ESPN and Delany. ESPN feared Delany's intent to move East with his then independent BTNetwork. Moving the best properties to the ACC protected them in the Northeast and enhanced their investment in the ACC.

Conferences make the moves for more money, but as in all things its the man with the open purse who controls the action.

Florida State is not viable to the SEC because ESPN doesn't want it and won't pay for it.

Now that FOX has reduced or is reducing their collegiate exposure we'll see how wide ESPN is willing to open their wallet in the upcoming negotiations with the B1G and the Big 12 (and to a lesser extent the PAC).
Without competition, ESPN was able to scoop all of the T3 for 8 Big 12 schools, plus the broadcast rights for 3 Big 12 championship games for $40 million.
That doesn't bode well for the three conferences that were expecting huge increases with their next contracts.