(03-13-2019 04:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 04:19 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 03:58 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 03:56 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 03:47 PM)SomebodyToLove Wrote:  Is there ever good timing for this kind of move?

At NU, we let go our men's hockey coach in 2011 and lost two big recruits in the process (and by big, I mean BIG like one would've been the best player we've ever had by far - Johnny Gaudreau). Anyway, at the time fans were pretty mad. Our coach had turned around our program and it seemed better than ever before. Well our new coach we brought in has turned us into the best our program has ever been. We suffered for two seasons while we coped with the loss of players but we are higher now than ever before.

Now I'm not saying that this is the right move, and their future depends a lot on who they bring in. I just want to make the point that it's almost never the right time to fire someone in these types of situations. (I also want to wish W&M fans well and praise Shaver but I'll let things cool down on their board first)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t NU always had a somewhat decent hockey program? I’m thinking the two are apples to oranges.

For what it’s worth, I went ahead and wished WM well. I think it does them good to know that other CAA fans had a lot of respect for Shaver and wish the best for WM. They’re a good school and have been a valuable member of this conference. Their fans deserve better. Way better.


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And unlike W&M basketball, Northeastern actually invests real resources into its hockey program. W&M doesn't do the same for basketball.

If that changes going forward, than sure, we can say this move makes sense. But if it remains status quo and they hope for better results, it'll be a Brownell to Benny Moss situation all over again.

UNCW did have one good season under Moss with Brownell’s players. If WM is lucky enough to retain all their players (especially Knight and Audige) and recruits coming next year than on paper they should compete for a championship. Which further makes the firing oddly timed. Numerous Tribe fans on their board are stating its due to a desire for their AD to put her name on the map. Which kinda makes sense, with some big IFs.

1. IF all returning players return.
2. IF all recruits stick around for a different coach (less likely than #1).
3. IF they can win it all in the next 1-2 years.

If all that happens she’ll be known as an AD who brought in her “guy” to win it all at WM and get them to the dance for the first time in school history. Having that on her resume would surely boost her national profile.


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"This damned AD got us to our first ever NCAA basketball tournment just so she could leave...DAMN HER(shaking fist)!!

I see your point there.

Scenario: What if he/she (why not it’s 2019) wins with Shaver’s guys in year one, she gets a P5 AD gig a couple years after that and in the seasons to follow the NCAAT year the team craps the bed (not dissimilar too much from our Moss years). Was it worth it?

Obviously part of the answer to that would lie in how successful the tournament appearance was as well.

But, in your opinion... would it be worth it?


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